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Global Hardware 29 June 2019

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zorg1000 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:

Sure, but NS is a hybrid, so it caters for home console gamers too, this could maybe negatively affect some sales, so that its sales, pushed by being also a portable, are very high anyway is more noteworthy than if it were just a portable.

It also being a home console does not negate its portable aspect.

True, but it makes it possible that a share of both its current owners and potential buyers be identifiable mainly as home console gamers, so at least part of this share would likely follow home users buying patterns. Being a hybrid, though, changes the game: while minorities of NS gamers will identify themselves as pure or almost pure portable or home gamers, the majority probably went beyond this as soon as they started enjoying the wider benefits of the hybrid concept. But this is surely more true for people that already bought it, while part of future buyers could arrive to it later, so they would follow the buying pattern of the category they belonged too before fully embracing the hybrid philosophy.



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
zorg1000 said:

It also being a home console does not negate its portable aspect.

True, but it makes it possible that a share of both its current owners and potential buyers be identifiable mainly as home console gamers, so at least part of this share would likely follow home users buying patterns. Being a hybrid, though, changes the game: while minorities of NS gamers will identify themselves as pure or almost pure portable or home gamers, the majority probably went beyond this as soon as they started enjoying the wider benefits of the hybrid concept.

Yes but we have already seen this pattern happen with Switch.



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Replicant said:

Please stop trying to make it sound like I'm saying that there's no money to be made on Switch. I'm saying that the claim about "3rd parties hating Nintendo" is ridiculous. As I said initially, if there's money to be made, 3rd parties will come as we've seen with e.g. Activision (Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled, Spyro: Reignited Trilogy), Bandai Namco (Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, Digimon Survive, Dragon Ball FighterZ), Capcom (Mega Man 11, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy), Epic (Fortnite), Sega (Sonic Mania, Team Sonic Racing, Puyo Puyo Tetris), Square Enix (Octopath Traveler, Dragon Quest XI S), Take-Two (Civilization VI), Ubisoft (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Just Dance), and Warner (Scribblenauts Showdown, Lego City Undercover).

You claim that Switch owners ignore the 3rd party "loot box riddled" AAA titles but still complain that publishers aren't bringing them to Switch. You're basically calling 3rd parties biased against Nintendo for not wanting to change their business model regarding AAA titles. That's entitlement in its purest form.

I am actually not complaining that games aren't getting ported. I pointed out that your logic doesn't hold up.

But yes, AAA third parties are biased against Nintendo and gamers because they don't want to change their deplorable business model.

By the way, you forgot EA in your list. Additionally, writing that list should have made you realize how tepid the support has been and will continue to be in the foreseeable future.



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Mar1217 said:
Uuuuuh ! That's what I like to see :3

It even won in Europe too :O
Since we also an increase in Japan for next week's numbers then I guess it won't go down much which is great to start the summer !

Replicant said:
RolStoppable said:

The sentence you highlighted clearly states why the games would get ignored, so it's not rocket science for AAA publishers to figure out what they would have to improve.

Given what your response was, you are either convinced that there is no money to be made on Switch or you hope that you don't have to give a clear answer to that question.

Please stop trying to make it sound like I'm saying that there's no money to be made on Switch. I'm saying that the claim about "3rd parties hating Nintendo" is ridiculous. As I said initially, if there's money to be made, 3rd parties will come as we've seen with e.g. Activision (Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled, Spyro: Reignited Trilogy), Bandai Namco (Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth, Digimon Survive, Dragon Ball FighterZ), Capcom (Mega Man 11, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy), Epic (Fortnite), Sega (Sonic Mania, Team Sonic Racing, Puyo Puyo Tetris), Square Enix (Octopath Traveler, Dragon Quest XI S), Take-Two (Civilization VI), Ubisoft (Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Just Dance), and Warner (Scribblenauts Showdown, Lego City Undercover).

You claim that Switch owners ignore the 3rd party "loot box riddled" AAA titles but still complain that publishers aren't bringing them to Switch. You're basically calling 3rd parties biased against Nintendo for not wanting to change their business model regarding AAA titles. That's entitlement in its purest form.

I think he was more suggesting that companies like EA who are focused on Live services shit like Anthem have spent a great deal of the last 5 years trying to convince gamers that what we want to be playing is online social interaction always online ever changing type games with no single player element whatsoever, so then the Switch rolls around with Mario Ody and Breath of the Wild which are basically 2 massive middle fingers to the idea that a massive single player game can't be amazing and isn't exactly what millions of gamers are willing to throw money at, there was a time when the attach rate of breath of the wild was greater than 1:1 because while people couldn't get the system to play it... everyone wanted what is one of the best and biggest single player games of all times.

It would be better for companies like EA to keep their fans away from systems where options other than always online yearly purchased trash was in the minority alongside games which came out 2 years ago and are still pumping out great gameplay all this time, heck even in terms of online shooters, if you bought Splatoon 2 around Switch launch you could still be playing that game today and enjoying new free map and weapon packs which have been steadily dropping into the game over the last 24 months, it completely goes against a call of duty or battlefield where you could buy the game two years ago but if you didn't buy the season pass you would be completely outta the loop in terms of what type of game people have today.... if the servers for online were still even up given that when a sequel appears often those older titles are shut down and forgotten.



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Mar1217 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Nope, that's in 2 months... with the Lite models: Yellow (SS 1-3), Turquoise (Super Sayan Blue/SSGSS) and Grey (Ultra Instinct)

Nope. it indeed got into Super Saiyan, but now it is waiting to go Ultra Instinct mode with Lite ^^

That wasn't Super Saiyan, that was only a Kaio-ken X3 ^^



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Chrkeller said:
Good for Nintendo. The Switch is a great piece of hardware, my favorite Nintendo hardware since the SNES. I am curious how long Nintendo can keep the momentum. With Astral Chain, Daemon, FE, LM3, Pokemon... I suspect Nintendo is only getting started. As for Microsoft, the Xbox One has been massively disappointing for me, I went as far as to sell mine. I loved the 360 and original Xbox, but this generation MS has done a terrible job at delivering exclusive content. My favorite 3 One games were Ori (Indie), MCC (collection of old games) and Rare Replay (collection of old games).

Yeah I also really liked the original Xbox and the 360, (the latter being one of my top 5 consoles of all time) but the Xbone completely failed to attract me. Not only did it lack exclusives, but franchises like Halo and Gears took an uninteresting direction on it, and in my humble opinion the quality of AAA third party games has really fallen this gen compared to last as it feels like most of them are out of ideas and just creating the most safe, focus-tested games they can, as opposed to last gen where we had a ton of exciting new IPs.

Hopefully they learn their lessons and Scarlet is more appealing.

KrspaceT said:
Beyond the third party behavior we continue to mock, I wonder if there are still people shouting at how the Switch is doomed or not? I mean if they wanted to they could probably shout 'POKEMON SWORD AND SHIELD CONTROVERSY WILL SINK THE SWITCH!' or something

(Worst that will do is basically be the Switch's Age of Ultron, something that does well but with a notable gap of 'what could have been without it' that there is internal reaction and response, FYI)

Most of the "Switch/Nintendo is doomed" talk died off in late 2017 when it became clear to anyone with any common sense that the system was a smash hit. You do still get the occasional post from the usual suspects about how it'll die once PS5/Scarlet release or how they'll be no more games after this year, but that's to be expected. The doom brigade have for the most part been driven underground by Switch's success. They'll emerge again once it's successor is unveiled. 



Ganoncrotch said: 

1: I think he was more suggesting that companies like EA who are focused on Live services shit like Anthem have spent a great deal of the last 5 years trying to convince gamers that what we want to be playing is online social interaction always online ever changing type games with no single player element whatsoever,

2: so then the Switch rolls around with Mario Ody and Breath of the Wild which are basically 2 massive middle fingers to the idea that a massive single player game can't be amazing and isn't exactly what millions of gamers are willing to throw money at, there was a time when the attach rate of breath of the wild was greater than 1:1 because while people couldn't get the system to play it... everyone wanted what is one of the best and biggest single player games of all times.

1+2: It would be better for companies like EA to keep their fans away from systems where options other than always online yearly purchased trash was in the minority alongside games which came out 2 years ago and are still pumping out great gameplay all this time, heck even in terms of online shooters, if you bought Splatoon 2 around Switch launch you could still be playing that game today and enjoying new free map and weapon packs which have been steadily dropping into the game over the last 24 months,

3: it completely goes against a call of duty or battlefield where you could buy the game two years ago but if you didn't buy the season pass you would be completely outta the loop in terms of what type of game people have today.... if the servers for online were still even up given that when a sequel appears often those older titles are shut down and forgotten.

1: Anthem is not the best example as nobody wanted to play that game. Even though EA and Bioware promised a 10 year journey of new content, Anthem was quickly abandoned by gamers and most likely by Bioware as well. This is not a first for EA though as Mass Effect: Andromeda, Star Wars: Battlefront 2 and Battlefield V failed to meet expectations as well. That you and Rol claim that publishers are biased against Nintendo because Nintendo owners are the only ones who'd say no to loot box riddled games is kinda dumb (VGC being a Nintendo hivemind, I'm not that surprised though). Have you not been following gaming news for the past 2 years? EA has been heavily criticized for their monetization in e.g. Star Wars: Battlefront 2 and is now under criminal investigation in Europe and the US for promoting gambling. EA's stock value has decreased 38% in just a year.

2: I agree. 10 days ago, I voted for Breath of the Wild as the greatest launch title of all time. God of War, Spider-Man, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Uncharted 4, etc. are also massive middle fingers to the idea that a massive single player game can't be amazing. But that didn't stop publishers from releasing their multiplayer games on e.g. the PS4. Again, you and Rol's logic is flawed (I wonder why).

3: It's scary to find myself defending games that I haven't had any interest in since iterations released in 2005 (Battlefield 2) and 2009 (COD: Modern Warfare 2), respectively. But Battlefield V's maps are indeed added for free and all maps in this year's COD: Modern Warfare will be free as well.



Nice SMM2 boost, do you we have an idea of the first week sales for the game apart from Japan?



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TruckOSaurus said:
Nice SMM2 boost, do you we have an idea of the first week sales for the game apart from Japan?

Not yet but at the end of the month Nintendo will give out updated shipment numbers for the quarter ending June 30 so we will find out what the initial global shipments were and sometimes they will mention sell through for recent games.



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