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RaptorChrist said:

I often ponder about the impacts of drastic changes to the minimum wage. People in this world are too greedy. Or at the very least, Americans are too greedy (as I've never been anywhere else). So what would happen if there was no minimum wage? How much would McDonalds be paying it's workers. Why is it that Americans put up with such low wages and why is it that people need this sort of government intervention in the form of policing the minimum amount of money that one is to be paid. I think I understand why, but am moreso disturbed that this is the reality we live in.

I live near Chicago, and recently the minimum wage in the city has been set up such that by 2025 it will be $15 per hour. I think right now it's $12 per hour.

I'm not super big into politics, but if little 'ol me had control over things, I would think that taxing the upper 1% would solve many more of our problems. It's astonishing how many loopholes there are such that some of the biggest companies in the world oftentimes owe zero dollars on taxes at the end of the year.

I would imagine that the solution to the problem is simple, but passing laws to put said solution into motion is the difficult part, as the wealthy are using their dollars to keep things the way they are (or make things more lopsided). In a majority rules system, why is the majority getting screwed by such a small percentage of people? Does every member of congress get bribed by large corporations?

What sort of shenanigans went on to allow for net neutrality to be tossed away...

Higher Minimum wage means more people in a higher tax bracket and thus potentially more tax revenue anyway.
A higher minimum wage isn't a bad thing... Especially as the low/medium wealth tax brackets tend to be where the majority reside.

So if anything, higher minimum wage should negate the requirement of more taxes if a Government is trying to claw more revenue in.

What I really find baffling when I went to the United States was this "tipping" thing. - Here in Australia we don't do that, our wages are high enough where such a thing isn't needed... And high quality service is generally expected from the get go.



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Pemalite said:
RaptorChrist said:

I often ponder about the impacts of drastic changes to the minimum wage. People in this world are too greedy. Or at the very least, Americans are too greedy (as I've never been anywhere else). So what would happen if there was no minimum wage? How much would McDonalds be paying it's workers. Why is it that Americans put up with such low wages and why is it that people need this sort of government intervention in the form of policing the minimum amount of money that one is to be paid. I think I understand why, but am moreso disturbed that this is the reality we live in.

I live near Chicago, and recently the minimum wage in the city has been set up such that by 2025 it will be $15 per hour. I think right now it's $12 per hour.

I'm not super big into politics, but if little 'ol me had control over things, I would think that taxing the upper 1% would solve many more of our problems. It's astonishing how many loopholes there are such that some of the biggest companies in the world oftentimes owe zero dollars on taxes at the end of the year.

I would imagine that the solution to the problem is simple, but passing laws to put said solution into motion is the difficult part, as the wealthy are using their dollars to keep things the way they are (or make things more lopsided). In a majority rules system, why is the majority getting screwed by such a small percentage of people? Does every member of congress get bribed by large corporations?

What sort of shenanigans went on to allow for net neutrality to be tossed away...

Higher Minimum wage means more people in a higher tax bracket and thus potentially more tax revenue anyway.
A higher minimum wage isn't a bad thing... Especially as the low/medium wealth tax brackets tend to be where the majority reside.

So if anything, higher minimum wage should negate the requirement of more taxes if a Government is trying to claw more revenue in.

What I really find baffling when I went to the United States was this "tipping" thing. - Here in Australia we don't do that, our wages are high enough where such a thing isn't needed... And high quality service is generally expected from the get go.

Tipping in the US is horrid.  Workers who are expecting tips can actually be paid a much lower minimum wage than anyone else.  The federal law is less than $3/hour.  They're expected to make up the other minimum wage ($7.25) from tips.  

I think a law would need to be passed to get rid of it, since it's so ingrained in the culture here.  



the-pi-guy said:
Pemalite said:

Higher Minimum wage means more people in a higher tax bracket and thus potentially more tax revenue anyway.
A higher minimum wage isn't a bad thing... Especially as the low/medium wealth tax brackets tend to be where the majority reside.

So if anything, higher minimum wage should negate the requirement of more taxes if a Government is trying to claw more revenue in.

What I really find baffling when I went to the United States was this "tipping" thing. - Here in Australia we don't do that, our wages are high enough where such a thing isn't needed... And high quality service is generally expected from the get go.

Tipping in the US is horrid.  Workers who are expecting tips can actually be paid a much lower minimum wage than anyone else.  The federal law is less than $3/hour.  They're expected to make up the other minimum wage ($7.25) from tips.  

I think a law would need to be passed to get rid of it, since it's so ingrained in the culture here.  

Abd since it's so ingrained, good luck on getting such a law to pass the instances.