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Marth said:


If Switch was overpriced nobody would buy it, its as simple as that.

I wouldn't got that far. People buy Macs and Iphones.



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PAOerfulone said:

Another thing I just realized is that the Nintendo Switch Lite coming out the same day as Link's Awakening continues a trend of Nintendo releasing a new system, whether it's a revision or a new console entirely, with a Zelda game. Furthermore, the revised model is releasing with a Zelda remake. Just like the New 3DS when it launched overseas in February 2015, it released with Majora's Mask 3D.

Seriously:

2006 - Wii/Twilight Princess
2015 - New 3DS/Majora's Mask 3D
2017 - Switch/Breath of the Wild
2019 - Switch Lite/Link's Awakening

Looks like Zelda has become the default system seller/marking tool for Nintendo.

It's not a trend when you have to cherry-pick data points to make your point. The New 2DS XL launched without a new Zelda game and the gap between Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask 3D is enormous as far as the number of consoles/revisions inbetween goes (DSi, DSi XL, 3DS, 3DS XL, Wii U, 2DS).

With Switch and Switch Lite you have two data points in a row, but two data points is too small of a sample to speak of a trend.

Barkley said:
Chrkeller said:

There really isn't a contemporary device in which to compare. 

True, which just means that in that sense it's valuable and not overpriced.

Production costs is the other thing we can look at. "Thanks to a new report from Japanese firm Fomalhaut, we now know that the manufacturing cost for the Nintendo Switch is roughly $257"

So the Switch at launch cost $257 to make and was sold at $299, clearly not overpriced. 

I can't say that I like either one of you guys' approach to the topic of overpriced (although it must be said that Barkley's is better). Whether or not a luxury product is overpriced is determined by market performance. When a large enough number of people is willing to pay the asking price for a luxury product, then it isn't overpriced. People are free to say that a product is too expensive for them, but that doesn't lead to an objective conclusion of a product being overpriced.



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RolStoppable said:

When a large enough number of people is willing to pay the asking price for a luxury product, then it isn't overpriced. People are free to say that a product is too expensive for them, but that doesn't lead to an objective conclusion of a product being overpriced.

I guess really there isn't a singular definition for "overpriced".

If people are buying it, it's not overpriced for the market, but if the price is ridiculous high compared to it's production costs it's overpriced compared to it's value.

I don't care how many people buy the $999 Mac Pro stand, it probably costs apple $100 max to make, it's overpriced.

So there's overpriced in terms of raw value, overpriced in terms of market acceptance and overpriced in terms of functional value. So it depends which one you're going for I guess.



Predictions (Made July 2019)

LTD: PS4 - 130m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 52m       2019 : PS4 - 15m, Switch - 18.8m, XBO - 4.8m        2020: Switch - 22m (Peak Year)


Well this should pretty much completely phase out the 3DS then.. Was surprised not to hear about any sort of apparent improved hardware, even the screen display or the like. Colors look pretty blah.. Grey looks ok I guess, though they should just release a black and Wii-style slick white along with it. I like that they added an actual d-pad finally. Now can we get separate joycons with a real d-pad? As a Switch owner there's absolutely no point in this for me, but I guess I could see how it could draw in some new buyers. 



Barkley said:
KLXVER said:

Does it have a better battery life though? If so, how much better is it?

3-7 hours instead of 2.5-6.5 hours. Not a massive increase but a bit better.

Did they really improve the battery, it just seems to have the same battery but because it is smaller and use less features it needs less of the battery. Not that I am complaining but an improved battery would have been welcome.






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Barkley said:
RolStoppable said:

When a large enough number of people is willing to pay the asking price for a luxury product, then it isn't overpriced. People are free to say that a product is too expensive for them, but that doesn't lead to an objective conclusion of a product being overpriced.

I guess really there isn't a singular definition for "overpriced".

If people are buying it, it's not overpriced for the market, but if the price is ridiculous high compared to it's production costs it's overpriced compared to it's value.

I don't care how many people buy the $999 Mac Pro stand, it probably costs apple $100 max to make, it's overpriced.

So there's overpriced in terms of raw value, overpriced in terms of market acceptance and overpriced in terms of functional value. So it depends which one you're going for I guess.

Using production costs to settle the question for entertainment products doesn't really make sense. When the original Star Wars trilogy gets released on Blu-ray, it's sold for a much, much higher price than it costs to manufacture the discs and packaging, but what people are really paying for is the movies. When people buy a console, it's not about the cost of the individual parts, but rather about which library of games they get access to, because there's no point in buying a console without the intention to buy games.

The example of the Mac Pro stand is a bit strange, because I very much doubt that that thing sells well enough to not be labeled overpriced, so it's unnecessary to take an approach different to the one I outlined in my previous post. It's overpriced any way you slice it.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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RolStoppable said:
Barkley said:

I guess really there isn't a singular definition for "overpriced".

If people are buying it, it's not overpriced for the market, but if the price is ridiculous high compared to it's production costs it's overpriced compared to it's value.

I don't care how many people buy the $999 Mac Pro stand, it probably costs apple $100 max to make, it's overpriced.

So there's overpriced in terms of raw value, overpriced in terms of market acceptance and overpriced in terms of functional value. So it depends which one you're going for I guess.

Using production costs to settle the question for entertainment products doesn't really make sense. When the original Star Wars trilogy gets released on Blu-ray, it's sold for a much, much higher price than it costs to manufacture the discs and packaging, but what people are really paying for is the movies. When people buy a console, it's not about the cost of the individual parts, but rather about which library of games they get access to, because there's no point in buying a console without the intention to buy games.

The example of the Mac Pro stand is a bit strange, because I very much doubt that that thing sells well enough to not be labeled overpriced, so it's unnecessary to take an approach different to the one I outlined in my previous post. It's overpriced any way you slice it.

No, using production costs to justify how high the price may have been is quite valid.

Using production costs to argue that it should have a lower price would fit more in-line with your argument and examples.

Regardless of any perceived value, at a very least, companies are frequently advised to sell their products expensive enough to recoup production costs. Selling at a loss typically is only done in order to encourage sales and hope those losses are recouped via software. Then, any additional MSRP above production cost comes down to perceived value.



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Excellent move by Nintendo! I love that it has a dpad! The price is great!

I would to try to sell mine (original Switch) and buy one if it could connect to a tv.



It's official names is Nintendo " Un Switch" Switch version that cannot Switch into docking mode, It's the same like Nintendo 2DS basically, a 3DS version that cannot do 3D. it's just Nintendo being Nintendo.

Actually i prefer this device compared to Nintendo Switch, since i got Vita, PSP and Gameboy Advance vibe esque from it's design and focus on pure handled powerhouse with no gimmick . This lite version just shows and confirm that Switch is really a handheld device since day one. Because by spec wise it is a handled . Even though it can upscale and connect to TV it's just a handled with a function to play on the monitor.

I think like it already , but i just wished they include at least the rumble feature with gyro and accelerometer. I do love how they are now replace the d-pad with real D- Pad because now it cannot detach , and only function as solely for d-pad. The batteries though it's not that different only increase 1 hours, i want at least 4/5 to 9 hours battery life, since it focus for mobile only. everything else is good and decent looking forward for this.

EDIT: I think one for sure, Nintendo Officially kill the 3DS/2DS family. Welcome the new handled king by default 

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Lafiel said:
Very much as I expected. "Switch" is a brandname at this point and not indicative of it's functionality.

I wonder if they'll also release a dedicated home "Switch".

Probably the dedicated home console of Switch  would fit for the "pro" version. But i wonder how powerful it might be. Probably it will able to play the games on 1080p at 60 fps or even 4k but with the same graphic features. But with sacrifice of being " handled " . LOL if it's true that would be hilarious