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potato_hamster said:
Barkley said:

So you can't come up with a single reason that the Switch isn't a valid home console, your only point is that it can do something extra that home consoles can't.

Your argument then is you don't think hybrid consoles can exist, you should have led with that. Meanwhile I shall ignore you and your agenda.

I came up with several reasons why, you just don't like them.

And, what is my agenda?

Dude... your reason is literally 'I don't think hybrid consoles exist outside of market speak'.



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0D0 said:
Random_Matt said:

This is VGChartz, of course they will count it the same when it is not, you crazy?

Sorry, didn't get you.

Barkley said:

"That'd be totally unfair, Lite is a Switch with the exact same games as the regular, people who own a lite won't buy a standard, you're splitting the switch userbase in half!"

Is branding the Switch lite as "Not a switch" more fair?

But you should stop viewing it through a competitive lens and view it through a logical one.

You think I'm not being logical. I think you're not being logical. Good day to you too.

Random_Matt said:

Users constantly move goal posts, thread is pure comedy.

Did I do something wrong?

You have not done anything wrong.



Switch will come for the PS2/DS LT sales when all is said and done.



Barkley said:
0D0 said:

You think I'm not being logical. I think you're not being logical. Good day to you too.

Your reason for it not being counted as the same console is that it would be "unfair" and give an advantage to the Switch compared to the PS4. Hence your reasoning is motivated by competition and wanting the ps4 to win rather than logic.

My reason was just "unfair"? I came here and posted "it's unfair" and nothing else?

Can you read again my posts and talk to me again later? Thank you.



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0D0 said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Yes it does since Switch and Switch Lite have got the same library of games and the Switch has been counted against PS/XB since release.

But Switch was considered a home console, Lite isn't. The sales behauviour will be completely different considering that it's a handheld console like 3DS, much cheaper, families will buy multiple units, etc. Totally unfair if we compare Lite sales against true current gen home consoles.

Nothing is stopping Sony and Microsoft from offering Portable PS4 or XBO's. If Nintendo wants to make their Ecosystem available Natively at Home and on the Go, and Microsoft and Sony want to lock you to the Home or limit you to streaming only, on competitors devices on the go, that is their choice. Nothing unfair about it.

As for the Lite itself. I have no issue with the lack of TV Output, but I am a bit let down by the lack of rumble. I'm glad the screen has been reduced to 5.5", but it stillsounds a little bit too big (will have to have it in person for final judgement). Overall, I am proabably at about 70% excitement for it. Look forward to hearing more, and will definitly Pre-Order as soon as available. 



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Kind of have to eat a small dish of crow. I did not see this coming. I mean, I figured a handheld only Switch was coming, as I see a ‘pro/tv’ version coming, but I did not expect to see it this year. I was sure they’d ride solo with the current model for another year.



psychicscubadiver said:
potato_hamster said:

I came up with several reasons why, you just don't like them.

And, what is my agenda?

Dude... your reason is literally 'I don't think hybrid consoles exist outside of market speak'.

... nope. I just can't imagine what a legitimately hybrid console would look like, or what its feature set would be. I'd have to put a lot of thought into that. But to reiterate, if Nintendo's definition of "hybrid console" is good enough for you, then go for it.



potato_hamster said:
psychicscubadiver said:

Dude... your reason is literally 'I don't think hybrid consoles exist outside of market speak'.

... nope. I just can't imagine what a legitimately hybrid console would look like, or what its feature set would be. I'd have to put a lot of thought into that. But to reiterate, if Nintendo's definition of "hybrid console" is good enough for you, then go for it.

A failure of your imagination doesn't change reality. That's like saying 'hybrid cars don't exist. They're just regular cars that have their batteries do extra functions and anyone that claims otherwise is just falling for the marketing.'



psychicscubadiver said:
potato_hamster said:

... nope. I just can't imagine what a legitimately hybrid console would look like, or what its feature set would be. I'd have to put a lot of thought into that. But to reiterate, if Nintendo's definition of "hybrid console" is good enough for you, then go for it.

A failure of your imagination doesn't change reality. That's like saying 'hybrid cars don't exist. They're just regular cars that have their batteries do extra functions and anyone that claims otherwise is just falling for the marketing.'

This exactly.



psychicscubadiver said:
potato_hamster said:

... nope. I just can't imagine what a legitimately hybrid console would look like, or what its feature set would be. I'd have to put a lot of thought into that. But to reiterate, if Nintendo's definition of "hybrid console" is good enough for you, then go for it.

A failure of your imagination doesn't change reality. That's like saying 'hybrid cars don't exist. They're just regular cars that have their batteries do extra functions and anyone that claims otherwise is just falling for the marketing.'

Holy false equivalency, Batman! It's not like saying that at all. A hybrid car, is very well defined and very well established technology. Someone can glance at the hardware list of any hybrid car and identify it as being a hybrid. Try and define what hardware features define a console to be "a hybrid console" such that the vast majority of people would agree with it, and such that only the Switch qualifies. Seriously. Not what is shipped in the box, not the features of the games it plays, just the functionality of the hardware. Just try to do it.

Here, let's try this thought experiment. Is the Toyota Camry a hybrid car? Should Toyota count every Toyota Camry sold as a "hybrid car sale"? If Toyota came out with an all-electric Prius, should its sales also be lumped in with "hybrid car sales"? For what it's worth the term "cross over" is also marketing term that has very little meaning.

Last edited by potato_hamster - on 10 July 2019