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Barkley said:
RolStoppable said:

It's nice to see that Nintendo doesn't go for the typical season pass where all of the individual DLC pieces can be bought for a discount. What they call expansion pass is an all or nothing affair; you either buy everything or you don't buy anything.

Why is less options a good thing?

Because it means that the publisher needs to make it worth it and that holds all the more true the higher the price is. It creates a situation where they can't phone it in, because at a price of $/€20 or more, people think about what they are buying. That's why less options can be a good thing because things move in a direction where the publisher feels inclined to overdeliver or at the very least justify the price they are asking for.

Maybe you've seen the DLC thread that I made for Atelier Lulua; that game provides you all possible options to buy its DLC, but no matter what you pick, it's always bad. It is an example of how more options can be a bad thing, because a season pass's purpose is to convey a good deal when it's actually still a rip-off. By the way, Atelier Lulua has three season passes.

Less options being a good thing also applies to games as a whole. When you look at what some publishers have pulled off with three or more editions being available at launch, each one having different content missing in the package, then a single edition at launch would have been without a doubt preferable.

There's a reason why the saying "Less is more." exists, because lots of things in life have a tipping point after which more of it makes it worse.



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RolStoppable said:
Barkley said:

Why is less options a good thing?

Because it means that the publisher needs to make it worth it and that holds all the more true the higher the price is. It creates a situation where they can't phone it in, because at a price of $/€20 or more, people think about what they are buying. That's why less options can be a good thing because things move in a direction where the publisher feels inclined to overdeliver or at the very least justify the price they are asking for.

Maybe you've seen the DLC thread that I made for Atelier Lulua; that game provides you all possible options to buy its DLC, but no matter what you pick, it's always bad. It is an example of how more options can be a bad thing, because a season pass's purpose is to convey a good deal when it's actually still a rip-off. By the way, Atelier Lulua has three season passes.

Less options being a good thing also applies to games as a whole. When you look at what some publishers have pulled off with three or more editions being available at launch, each one having different content missing in the package, then a single edition at launch would have been without a doubt preferable.

There's a reason why the saying "Less is more." exists, because lots of things in life have a tipping point after which more of it makes it worse.

Ok, that makes sense. Ideally you'd have the option while it not affecting the value of the overall package though. But I can see how offering the content separately can influence the publisher to either jack up the price of the pass, or give less overall. 



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P.S. Make Ubisoft do the same for Mario X Rabbids.



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Just gonna disagree with the title of the thread.  Nintendo's been very good with their DLC this generation.  Torna, Octo Expansion, and Mario+ Rabbids (if you wish to count it) were all basically 2nd games and very reasonable values even without the other perks that came with them.  Smash is a bit overpriced in my opinion and I dislike any fighting game that includes DLC characters on principle, but it is being well-received.  And Champions Ballad disappointed me a bit, but wasn't that expensive.

And that says nothing about the very generous free DLC that games like Kirby, Arms, and Mario Tennis got.

I acknowledge that perhaps Nintendo fell short in this area previously.  Frankly, I skipped the Wii U and never owned a handheld, so I can't really say before the Switch came out.  But, far from lamenting Nintendo's DLC "nonsense", I've been wishing this generation that other companies were as good as Nintendo when it comes to DLC.

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I don't know about that. I'm still waiting for that "new original story" Nintendo promised for Breath of the Wild expansion pass...



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Vodacixi said:
I don't know about that. I'm still waiting for that "new original story" Nintendo promised for Breath of the Wild expansion pass...

Didn't that become the next Zelda game on the switch.  They said they had too many ideas for DLC so it became a game.



RolStoppable said:
sethnintendo said:
I'm surprised you are praising a company over DLC. Did they break you down that bad where you don't give a shit anymore? Must have been those expansion packs in 90s that broke your soul.

Third party content is so bad overall that more Nintendo content is welcome. When the direction is to provide something worthy of the name 'expansion', it's all good. It's nice to see that Nintendo doesn't go for the typical season pass where all of the individual DLC pieces can be bought for a discount. What they call expansion pass is an all or nothing affair; you either buy everything or you don't buy anything.

Where are the dlcs for Mario + Rabbids and Mario Party?  They left Mario Party with lack luster online play (not that I care) and XCOM games always get dlc.



sethnintendo said:
Vodacixi said:
I don't know about that. I'm still waiting for that "new original story" Nintendo promised for Breath of the Wild expansion pass...

Didn't that become the next Zelda game on the switch.  They said they had too many ideas for DLC so it became a game.

So? We paid 20 dollars for a new original story. And we never got what we paid for. Nintendo lied to everyone and they took our money.



sethnintendo said:
RolStoppable said:

Third party content is so bad overall that more Nintendo content is welcome. When the direction is to provide something worthy of the name 'expansion', it's all good. It's nice to see that Nintendo doesn't go for the typical season pass where all of the individual DLC pieces can be bought for a discount. What they call expansion pass is an all or nothing affair; you either buy everything or you don't buy anything.

Where are the dlcs for Mario + Rabbids and Mario Party?  They left Mario Party with lack luster online play (not that I care) and XCOM games always get dlc.

Mario + Rabbids got beefy DLC with Donkey Kong Adventure.



NightlyPoe said:
sethnintendo said:

Where are the dlcs for Mario + Rabbids and Mario Party?  They left Mario Party with lack luster online play (not that I care) and XCOM games always get dlc.

Mario + Rabbids got beefy DLC with Donkey Kong Adventure.

Ah shit.  That's what I get for being stuck in Wii U generation.