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gamingsoul said:
Just because the mainstream media hates him that doesn’t mean that most Americans do, I mean he got elected once didn’t he?...oh wait I forgot it was the Russians

42% approval rating with a strong economy (which he might tank quicker if he keeps trying to trade war every single damn country at the same time).  So yes a majority of Americans don't like him and a majority of Americans didn't vote for him.

Maybe if he could learn to shut the fuck up and stop fucking stupid tweeting all the damn time then perhaps his poll numbers would rise.  But he can't shut the fuck up.  Hopefully a heart attack from eating McDonald's would do the trick.

Personally I just wish Chuck Norris ran.  I don't like republicans (and most democrats) but I would probably vote for Chuck Norris.  I wouldn't care if he tried to make abortion illegal because hell he is fucking Chuck Norris.



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Because the normal left leaning are being ignored and the far left such as AOC are getting the mainstream medias love. A small minority are being front and center to the detriment of the democratic party. These far left are a cancer



d21lewis said:

Machiavellian said:

This has happened in the pass so yes it can happen.  There was an article a ways back that suggested that Trump was dissatisfied with Mike Pence and was considering on his reelection to run with someone else

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But seriously, I'm too lazy to Google it. Can you tell me when it happened? I just want to know. It's an interesting piece of trivia.

Here is a link to such an event.

https://www.quora.com/If-a-President-is-elected-for-a-second-term-can-they-choose-a-different-Vice-President

Basically it was done by Franklin Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln Gerald Ford and a few others.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
only777 said:

Thing is, he didn't call Mexican immigrants rapists though.

He never mentioned Mexican immigrants.  He said Mexican illegal migrants.  Mexican immigrants are not the same thing as Mexican illegal migrants, despite how many people manage to confuse the two.

He said he welcomed Mexican immigrants, that's why he said about building a door in his wall to let people through so they could work at all the jobs he claimed he would create.

But why would someone try to cross illegally and not go through the course of filling out the paper work and getting a visa? 

That would be be people who know they have a criminal history and would be rejected.  That would be the drug dealers and people with sexual assault history.

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I don't blame you for getting it all wrong.  there is a lot of mis-information around these days.

So someone trying to escape a country full of crime, violence, government corruption and doesnt want to wait years to do it should automatically labled a rapist? Especially by someone who's been on record bragging about sexual assualt. Hmmmm okay... 

If you want to call asylum seekers rapists, then you're a pretty shitty person.

Asylum Seekers can claim for asylum.  So far over 14,000 people in 2019 have been successful in this respect.  You may check these numbers yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_the_United_States#Refugee_quotas

However no one mentioned asylum seekers.  This topic is about illegal migrants.  People trying to enter the country illegally.  It seems you don't understand what this term actually means.

  • It's not people who file for a permit to live/work in a different country.  That's Immigration.
  • It's not people who approach Immigration control as they are trying to escape awful situations.  That's Asylum.

Illegal migration is when people try to cross into another country without alerting authorities, and in fact try to evade them.  Now why would someone choose this instead of going through migration controls?  The most common reason by far is to hide previous convictions that would otherwise prevent them from entering.

It's sad that these differences need to be explained.  But the bottom line is this.  If you're not crossing the border via the authorities, you're are trying to evade them, and you're trying to evade them for a reason.

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only777 said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

So someone trying to escape a country full of crime, violence, government corruption and doesnt want to wait years to do it should automatically labled a rapist? Especially by someone who's been on record bragging about sexual assualt. Hmmmm okay... 

If you want to call asylum seekers rapists, then you're a pretty shitty person.

Asylum Seekers can claim for asylum.  So far over 14,000 people in 2019 have been successful in this respect.  You may check these numbers yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_the_United_States#Refugee_quotas

However no one mentioned asylum seekers.  This topic is about illegal migrants.  People trying to enter the country illegally.  It seems you don't understand what this term actually means.

  • It's not people who file for a permit to live/work in a different country.  That's Immigration.
  • It's not people who approach Immigration control as they are trying to escape awful situations.  That's Asylum.

Illegal migration is when people try to cross into another country without alerting authorities, and in fact try to evade them.  Now why would someone choose this instead of going through migration controls?  The most common reason by far is to hide previous convictions that would otherwise prevent them from entering.

It's sad that these differences need to be explained.  But the bottom line is this.  If you're not crossing the border via the authorities, you're are trying to evade them, and you're trying to evade them for a reason.

Yeah, you people give too much credit to Trump for being cryptic. You may differentiate between asylum seekers and illigal immigrants but I assure you Trump does not. 

The same asylum seekers Trump doesn't want in the country to begin with https://time.com/5604189/donald-trump-mexico-deal-safe-third-country/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5604991/donald-trump-migrants-asylum/%3famp=true

And you're fabricaring the notion the sole reason someone would enter the country illegally is the evade the law. Oy vey

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fatslob-:O said:
EricHiggin said:

Fascists, Socialists, and Communists, always garner the largest crowds. Why should it be any different for DT or BS right? lol

I'd liken neither sides as being 'rational' TBQH ... 

You have one side that has a history of being pro-austerity and then you have another side that's clearly anti-growth. Both democrats and republicans are beyond nuts too busy killing each other over progressing their own stupid ideological values. Now I know why shit doesn't EVER get done in America compared to the rivaling one party state at the other side of the world when the so called "power sharing structure" (or what's left thereof it) is a flop since neither sides are actually pragmatic enough to compromise ... 

Both are bad and they know it but they're too damn stubborn to admit the other side is right at least every once in a while ... 

Some on one side see DT as a Fascist and some on the other see BS as a Communist and/or Socialist. They're taking it way to far, and the further apart they get, the harder it becomes to work together until it's flat out impossible. If it keeps up and spreads then down the road it's either break up into smaller countries like Europe has over time, or another civil war. 

Personally I'd suggest if it seems the Dems won't beat Trump next election, then everyone who can should vote Trump. As long as the voting numbers remain fairly close like last time, both sides aren't coming back to center. Another close Trump victory will lead to another 4 years of the same. A YUGE win for Trump will force the Dems to come back and focus more on the center where they would be much better off anyway.

If the Dems look to be able to win, and do, then it's over for the Reps for a lot more than just another 8 years. If Trump of all people can't manage a second term, the right will likely forget about politics for good, which won't be good for anyone.



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EricHiggin said:
fatslob-:O said:

I'd liken neither sides as being 'rational' TBQH ... 

You have one side that has a history of being pro-austerity and then you have another side that's clearly anti-growth. Both democrats and republicans are beyond nuts too busy killing each other over progressing their own stupid ideological values. Now I know why shit doesn't EVER get done in America compared to the rivaling one party state at the other side of the world when the so called "power sharing structure" (or what's left thereof it) is a flop since neither sides are actually pragmatic enough to compromise ... 

Both are bad and they know it but they're too damn stubborn to admit the other side is right at least every once in a while ... 

Some on one side see DT as a Fascist and some on the other see BS as a Communist and/or Socialist. They're taking it way to far, and the further apart they get, the harder it becomes to work together until it's flat out impossible. If it keeps up and spreads then down the road it's either break up into smaller countries like Europe has over time, or another civil war. 

Personally I'd suggest if it seems the Dems won't beat Trump next election, then everyone who can should vote Trump. As long as the voting numbers remain fairly close like last time, both sides aren't coming back to center. Another close Trump victory will lead to another 4 years of the same. A YUGE win for Trump will force the Dems to come back and focus more on the center where they would be much better off anyway.

If the Dems look to be able to win, and do, then it's over for the Reps for a lot more than just another 8 years. If Trump of all people can't manage a second term, the right will likely forget about politics for good, which won't be good for anyone.

If you vote for trump then one might question your intellect.  What the fuck has he done for my USA but make us look like shit.  He is like a GWB Jr minus any intellect.  He is stupid as shit.  How the fuck you go bankrupt with Casinos?



Convince me trump isn't a dumbass and then you can convince my dumb ass country that he is perfect for us.  Pence can go fuck himself but I think he'd rather fuck Trump.



It has become impossible to have a conversation between the right and the left. I honestly beileve the far left has created this divide. If they don't come to reason we can not meet at the middle. And it's not trump, the left will think its the devil who ever is in leadership if they don't put them there.



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