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When an interviewer asked Canadian comedian/political pundit Rick Mercer’s opinion on Trump he said (roughly) “He takes all the attention away from everything else, I wish we were talking more about Canadian politics.”

Trump is an attention magnet. People who understood were warning the media during the primaries: all he had to do was Tweet something “stupid” at 3:30 AM and the entire news cycle belonged to him for another day. Now apparently the premise of OT is wrong and Sanders has created similar rallies, good job Bernie; but don’t be surprised if the fella who made politics into an exciting circus finds a big audience anywhere his base lives.



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Shadow1980 said:
TheBird said:
More people lined up for the washrooms at his rally than the number of people showing up for every democratic rally COMBINED. Democrats are just a bunch of communist clowns nowadays, nothing they stand for is American, and therefore no Americans want to waste their time listening to their crap.

@Italicized: False, as others have pointed out.

@Bolded:

Show me where in the Democratic platform, policies, or rhetoric where they suggest nationalizing the means of production.

@The rest: You don't get to define what is and isn't American. Progressives love America, too. We just have a different idea about what makes America great, and what makes for good policy. We also don't think loving your country means refusing to criticize aspects about its history or government. There's a fine line between patriotism and blind nationalism.

And lots of Americans do listen to our "crap," as you put it. That's why the Democrats won the 2018 midterms despite gerrymandering working against us, and why Republican presidential candidates have won the national popular vote precisely once in the past 30 years. If nobody cared what we have to say, we wouldn't win elections. Republicans are the ones that are less popular, and they make most of their successes thanks to geography, a flawed electoral system, gerrymandering, and an unfortunate tendency of progressives to sit at home and stew or vote third-party if they don't like the Democratic candidate.

https://medium.com/@teamwarren/heres-how-we-can-break-up-big-tech-9ad9e0da324c

"These companies would be prohibited from owning both the platform utility and any participants on that platform."

if the company no longer "owns" their own platform, then who does?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/health/private-health-insurance-medicare-for-all-bernie-sanders.html

"Unlike Obamacare, emerging plans would sweep away theprivate health insurance system. What would that mean for the companies’ workers, the stock market and the cost of care?"

nationalised healthcare

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/05/17/bernie-sanders-ban-forprofit-charter-schools/3709607002/

"Sen. Bernie Sanders will call for a federal ban on building for-profit charter schools in a major education policy address to be delivered Saturday in South Carolina, a senior campaign official for the 2020 presidential contender tells USA TODAY."

there are also suggestions for banning private education

and there's a lot more that I've probably forgotten or overlooked, many of the major things they are campaigning on are rooted in socialism... I'm getting flashbacks of the denials that nazi germany was socialist right now

obviously if everything must be made equal(the core ideology driving the left) then there must be centralised control to achieve that

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RolStoppable said:
TheBird said:
More people lined up for the washrooms at his rally than the number of people showing up for every democratic rally COMBINED. Democrats are just a bunch of communist clowns nowadays, nothing they stand for is American, and therefore no Americans want to waste their time listening to their crap.

Trump is definitely the most American president that America has had in a long time.

I totally agree.  Trump is the complete mirror of what America is and he represents exactly our standards.  He is exactly what every American harbors in their hearts and he reflect the current values and morals of this Nation.  I hope he gets another 4 years so that he can cement who he is and what America is.  Maybe he can actually change the laws so he can serve a 3rd term which would be even better.



Machiavellian said:
RolStoppable said:

Trump is definitely the most American president that America has had in a long time.

I totally agree.  Trump is the complete mirror of what America is and he represents exactly our standards.  He is exactly what every American harbors in their hearts and he reflect the current values and morals of this Nation.  I hope he gets another 4 years so that he can cement who he is and what America is.  Maybe he can actually change the laws so he can serve a 3rd term which would be even better.

Alternatively, he could announce Charlie Sheen as his successor after the second term. Charlie is also an iconic figure who represents American values and he has already proven that he has mastered the art of spin during his time as the second mayor of New York City.

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RolStoppable said:
Machiavellian said:

I totally agree.  Trump is the complete mirror of what America is and he represents exactly our standards.  He is exactly what every American harbors in their hearts and he reflect the current values and morals of this Nation.  I hope he gets another 4 years so that he can cement who he is and what America is.  Maybe he can actually change the laws so he can serve a 3rd term which would be even better.

Alternatively, he could announce Charlie Sheen as his successor after the second term. Charlie is also an iconic figure who represents American values and he has already proven that he has mastered the art of spin during his time as the second mayor of New York City.

If Trump did announce Charlie Sheen as his successor I would be all in.  Hell, can he just replace Mike Pence and run with Charlie for his reelection.



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Machiavellian said:
RolStoppable said:

Alternatively, he could announce Charlie Sheen as his successor after the second term. Charlie is also an iconic figure who represents American values and he has already proven that he has mastered the art of spin during his time as the second mayor of New York City.

If Trump did announce Charlie Sheen as his successor I would be all in.  Hell, can he just replace Mike Pence and run with Charlie for his reelection.

Has that ever happened, or can it happen?

You know, when Trump runs for President in 2020, he has a new Vice President on the ticket.



irstupid said:
Machiavellian said:

If Trump did announce Charlie Sheen as his successor I would be all in.  Hell, can he just replace Mike Pence and run with Charlie for his reelection.

Has that ever happened, or can it happen?

You know, when Trump runs for President in 2020, he has a new Vice President on the ticket.

This has happened in the pass so yes it can happen.  There was an article a ways back that suggested that Trump was dissatisfied with Mike Pence and was considering on his reelection to run with someone else



Machiavellian said:
irstupid said:

Has that ever happened, or can it happen?

You know, when Trump runs for President in 2020, he has a new Vice President on the ticket.

This has happened in the pass so yes it can happen.  There was an article a ways back that suggested that Trump was dissatisfied with Mike Pence and was considering on his reelection to run with someone else

Man, everything is coming to Xbox Game Pass!

But seriously, I'm too lazy to Google it. Can you tell me when it happened? I just want to know. It's an interesting piece of trivia.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
outlawauron said:

Saying things like only makes people support him more. Guy is teflon. Trying to twist his words doesn't stick.

Who's twisting words? It came straight out of his big ass denture infused mouth. This whole fake news narrative his base tries to push is nauseating at best 

Thing is, he didn't call Mexican immigrants rapists though.

He never mentioned Mexican immigrants.  He said Mexican illegal migrants.  Mexican immigrants are not the same thing as Mexican illegal migrants, despite how many people manage to confuse the two.

He said he welcomed Mexican immigrants, that's why he said about building a door in his wall to let people through so they could work at all the jobs he claimed he would create.

But why would someone try to cross illegally and not go through the course of filling out the paper work and getting a visa? 

That would be be people who know they have a criminal history and would be rejected.  That would be the drug dealers and people with sexual assault history.

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I don't blame you for getting it all wrong.  there is a lot of mis-information around these days.



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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
That's simple. Trump is likeable, interesting and sometimes down-to-earth guy. The democratic hopefuls aren't really any of that.

The guy who got a "small loan" of a million dollars is down to Earth??? He doesn't know what it's like to be an average everyday American at all. I can't believe his base and the people that defend him are really this delusional. And yeah lmao he's likable if you're a white nationalist

OT: Well he is the President so he's already in the spotlight and a good portion of America is conservative/conservative-leaning. The fact of the matter is conservatives know how to play to their base and the right are extremely good at uniting, there's little to no discourse between them. So you don't see these candidates having a lot of differing ideas or policies to the point where their base splinters off like on the left.