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potato_hamster said:
It amazes me how many people think how unimportant real, signifcant third party support from companies like EA is for long-term success of a console's life.

Yes I know, "Fuck EA, they're cancer, worst company in America"... EA brings in $5 billion a year. That's an enormous consumer base. Their games matter to the gaming community whether you like it or not.

There are millions of people out there that won't consider a console that doesn't have games like Call of Duty, Madden, Grand Theft Auto, and Assassin's Creed. How many Switches could Nintendo sell if they had these franchises on their platform?

Well, exactly one of these IPs is actually from EA, so this is not the greatest of all points. (Also technically AssCreed is on Switch, but you mean current ones.)

But you have to see, that this sword uts both ways: Think how much more Sony and MS could sell, if they had games like Mario Kart, Zelda, Xenoblade, Pokemon and Civilization.

The basic point is: a gaming platforms sells based on the games it has. More games is always better. Some games are very popular and help more. And different games deliver for different tastes. So if current Nintendo platform owner dislike games that aren't actually on their platform it makes a lot of sense: if they would like these games, they had chosen another platform. And that current PS4/XB1 owners dislike Nintendo games makes also sense - if they would like them, they would own a Nintendo platform.

Would it be great if one platform had all games? Pronably that would also be bad, but the more games a platform accumulates, the better. Currently it doesn't look too bad for Switch. That the lineup doesn't contain stuff you like means you probably don't own one. But that doesn't change the fact that millions like the Switch - because they have different tastes than you and therefore deem different games important.



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Mnementh said:
potato_hamster said:
It amazes me how many people think how unimportant real, signifcant third party support from companies like EA is for long-term success of a console's life.

Yes I know, "Fuck EA, they're cancer, worst company in America"... EA brings in $5 billion a year. That's an enormous consumer base. Their games matter to the gaming community whether you like it or not.

There are millions of people out there that won't consider a console that doesn't have games like Call of Duty, Madden, Grand Theft Auto, and Assassin's Creed. How many Switches could Nintendo sell if they had these franchises on their platform?

Well, exactly one of these IPs is actually from EA, so this is not the greatest of all points. (Also technically AssCreed is on Switch, but you mean current ones.)

But you have to see, that this sword uts both ways: Think how much more Sony and MS could sell, if they had games like Mario Kart, Zelda, Xenoblade, Pokemon and Civilization.

The basic point is: a gaming platforms sells based on the games it has. More games is always better. Some games are very popular and help more. And different games deliver for different tastes. So if current Nintendo platform owner dislike games that aren't actually on their platform it makes a lot of sense: if they would like these games, they had chosen another platform. And that current PS4/XB1 owners dislike Nintendo games makes also sense - if they would like them, they would own a Nintendo platform.

Would it be great if one platform had all games? Pronably that would also be bad, but the more games a platform accumulates, the better. Currently it doesn't look too bad for Switch. That the lineup doesn't contain stuff you like means you probably don't own one. But that doesn't change the fact that millions like the Switch - because they have different tastes than you and therefore deem different games important.

*claims that since one of the games I listed was from EA on a point about overall third party support means my point isn't great*

*claims "sword cuts both ways" by pointing out Sony would sell more Playstations if they had Nintendo first party games... and Civilization*

*goes on some tangent about how Nintendo owners don't like PS4/Xbox games, and PS4/Xbox owners don't like Nintendo games so its fine their libraries don't have that much in common, or something*

*thinks I probably don't own a Switch because I don't like how poor the third party support is for the Switch*

Okay man. You think whatever you want to think. There's obviously no reasonable conversation to be had with you.




KrspaceT said:
twintail said:

You are worried about mobile loot boxes now when nintendo locked contemt behind amiibo purchases back on the wiiu?

Ammibo are actually far more akin to 'LOL Surprise' and Kindereggs than digital content. Also most if not a vast majority of Amiibo content are costume DLC, hardly levels or such, and you don't plop them down to get super weapons for Splatoon 

Nah, that is just defending Nintendo for allowing ingame content to be locked until the player had an appropiate amiibo. Costumes are still content.

sethnintendo said:
twintail said:

You are worried about mobile loot boxes now when nintendo locked contemt behind amiibo purchases back on the wiiu?

Ha... I actually like the damn amiibos just sitting there on my shelves.  I don't give a fuck about what they unlock or do.  I tried a few out in Smash and they made the lvling too damn quick and it was pointless after a few hours once they lvled all the way up.  So to answer your question.  I bought them to look at not to unlock shit in game.

My question has nothing to do with the reason for which you bought amiibos.



Because EA can't comprehend why Nintendo is still successful after their fails while EA themselves are having a very hard time understanding why people can't accept their single player is dead and loot boxes shinanigans protest.



             

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potato_hamster said:
Alcyon said:

I am always amazed when someone dismiss the definition of hybrid. PS Vite+PS4 is an hybrid ? Good luck playing your PS4 games on a plane. And also, good luck to play your PS Vita games on a TV (that's possible, but seriously, good luck).

About the Wii http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/2/wii/

We can all see how the "signifiant support from every major third party" is wonderful. Wow.

http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/3/playstation-3/

http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/7/xbox-360/

We obviously don't notice any big difference, don't we ?

When the difference between a "hybrid console" and a "non-hybrid console" is whether an accessory to play a console on a TV ships with the console or is sold separately, the term is at best a marketing tool.  To be clear my point was that it meets the definition of "hybrid" because of the ways you can play the same game in different ways with everything included in a single package, not how practical it is, or how capable each solution is.

What about the Wii? I see dozens, if not hundreds of titles appearing on the Wii from every major publisher, including many of the most popular third party franchises in the world. Not once did I claim that the third party support for the Wii was nearly as good as the PS3 or Xbox 360 (because it obviously isn't), but there is absolutely no denying the Wii enjoyed much, much better third party support in terms of major third party titles than the Switch has so far. I mean honesty, the only publisher that is even doing Wii-style support (in the sense that they're consistently putting out a selection of their latest games on the platform) on the Switch is Bethesda

Yes I deny it. On the Wii, from the "major third party titles", you had rhythm games and half-assed ports. And few exclusives (timed or not).



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Maybe Nintendo are stricken on the Loot box ideas that EA force into there games. Consider N has a house hold name maybe that dont want to trash there image since alot of kids play there games and EA is all about gambling.



twintail said:
KrspaceT said:

Ammibo are actually far more akin to 'LOL Surprise' and Kindereggs than digital content. Also most if not a vast majority of Amiibo content are costume DLC, hardly levels or such, and you don't plop them down to get super weapons for Splatoon 

Nah, that is just defending Nintendo for allowing ingame content to be locked until the player had an appropiate amiibo. Costumes are still content.

sethnintendo said:

Ha... I actually like the damn amiibos just sitting there on my shelves.  I don't give a fuck about what they unlock or do.  I tried a few out in Smash and they made the lvling too damn quick and it was pointless after a few hours once they lvled all the way up.  So to answer your question.  I bought them to look at not to unlock shit in game.

My question has nothing to do with the reason for which you bought amiibos.

Well for one I like to see little figurines.  I don't view it as DLC.  I view it as figurine collectables.  So yeah you can diss me all you want but I like to look at them.  They are like trophies in smash

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sethnintendo said:
twintail said:

Nah, that is just defending Nintendo for allowing ingame content to be locked until the player had an appropiate amiibo. Costumes are still content.

My question has nothing to do with the reason for which you bought amiibos.

Well for one I like to see little figurines.  I don't view it as DLC.  I view it as figurine collectables.  So yeah you can diss me all you want but I like to look at them.  They are like trophies in smash

You have the wrong end of the stick if you think this is even remotely what I have done with any message I quoted you on.

i don't care why you own amiibos. Amiibo ownership had nothing to do with why I originally quoted you, but rather to make that point that lootboxes in nintendo games are pretty much par the course for Nintendo. 

Like, if you are taking some kind of offence to that then I don't what to tell you, except don't. 



Nintendo doesn't need EA tbh, Switch's success demonstrates that, and as a Switch owner I don't need EA either.

I'm quite happy without the likes of Mass Effect Andromeda, Battlefield V, or Anthem, thanks very much.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 22 June 2019

curl-6 said:

Nintendo doesn't need EA tbh, Switch's success demonstrates that, and as a Switch owner I don't need EA either.

I'm quite happy without the likes of Mass Effect Andromeda, Battlefield V, or Anthem, thanks very much.

Take the lead.  People don't understand EA can go fuck themselves.  If they could have support system by themselves then they would have released it.  They can't and only thing EA has is that they killed Sega from console market which isn't true because Sega was already fucked.