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The_Liquid_Laser said:

Hmm...not sure if I'm ready to consider Team Ninja and Platinum Games as first party.  Obviously, Nintendo had a role in these games being exclusives, but I kind of put them in the same category as Octopath Traveler.

Nintendo is producing both titles and publishing them worldwide. Octopath was a Square Enix game Nintendo simply published internationally, but they weren't involved in the production like they are with UA3 and Astral Chain.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
TheMisterManGuy said:

Quick correction, Astral Chain and Marvel UA3 are both first party.

Hmm...not sure if I'm ready to consider Team Ninja and Platinum Games as first party.  Obviously, Nintendo had a role in these games being exclusives, but I kind of put them in the same category as Octopath Traveler.

Astral Chain is first party much in the same way W101 is as even though PG develop it Nintendo contracted PG to do a first party title for them.



TheMisterManGuy said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Hmm...not sure if I'm ready to consider Team Ninja and Platinum Games as first party.  Obviously, Nintendo had a role in these games being exclusives, but I kind of put them in the same category as Octopath Traveler.

Nintendo is producing both titles and publishing them worldwide. Octopath was a Square Enix game Nintendo simply published internationally, but they weren't involved in the production like they are with UA3 and Astral Chain.

Just looking into this and you are right.  I am especially shocked about MUA3, since other studios produced the first two games.  It is kind of funny to me that Sony can make a first party Spider-Man game and a year later Nintendo can release another first party game with Spider-Man in it.  Kinda surreal.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
TheMisterManGuy said:

Nintendo is producing both titles and publishing them worldwide. Octopath was a Square Enix game Nintendo simply published internationally, but they weren't involved in the production like they are with UA3 and Astral Chain.

Just looking into this and you are right.  I am especially shocked about MUA3, since other studios produced the first two games.  It is kind of funny to me that Sony can make a first party Spider-Man game and a year later Nintendo can release another first party game with Spider-Man in it.  Kinda surreal.

A lot of that has to do with Marvel's new "Make epic games" policy, which mandates developers with the Marvel license to develop the best games possible.



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fatslob-:O said:
Nearly zero chance of that happening without price cut and I'm not counting on it happening either in the long-term. By the end of this year, the vast majority of Nintendo's leading game franchises will have released thus the Switch will likely end up experiencing sagging sales next year ...

This sounds a lot like what was said a a year or two ago. "Nintendo will decline next year because they released Mario and Zelda." That hasn't happened, and I don't think it will happen for 2019. We are already seeing third party put more stuff on the Switch and this will continue as Switch software sales remain strong. 

There is also a potential hardware revision which will increase sales much as it has for the PS4 and XBox One. So this idea that it will peak without a price cut is silly. 



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If a proper 2d Mario is made, the year it comes out will be the peak year, as long as it is not released in the last 2 years or so of the console's life cycle. 2021



It's possible. I mean we've got Animal Crossing: New Horizons out in March. This is the first time since the Switch's launch that such a huge Nintendo game comes out in the 1st quarter. If Breath of the Wild 2 comes out in 2020, or a yet-to-be-announced Super Mario Odyssey 2, that would help too.

Third party will probably peak in 2020 before the holiday 2020 releases of Project Scarlett and PlayStation 5. Plus long-rumoured Switch hardware revisions will almost certainly start in 2020 at the latest.

And fingers crossed they fix some of their online service and give us a lot of classic games by next year.



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