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Pokemon Sword/Shield will not feature all Pokemon - Just the ones in the regional dex.

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Does this affect your decision to get the game?

No, still hyped. 24 39.34%
 
Yes, hype gone, not buying. 10 16.39%
 
Eh, I don't like this but will wait and see. 10 16.39%
 
Eh, I hate this, but will get it anyway. 13 21.31%
 
Wasn't getting it from the start. 4 6.56%
 
Total:61

Now an interview straight from Game Freak's Masayuki Onoue, a programmer/director of Giga Wrecker Alt - stating that Pokemon isn't even GF's first priority at the moment.

If they aren't prioritising the biggest selling media franchise in the world, why are they allowed to continue working on it? Nintendo seriously needs to consider just buying out GF's 33% of Pokemon and have someone else develop the games at this point. Seriously, fucking why?



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RingoGaSuki said:

Now an interview straight from Game Freak's Masayuki Onoue, a programmer/director of Giga Wrecker Alt - stating that Pokemon isn't even GF's first priority at the moment.

If they aren't prioritising the biggest selling media franchise in the world, why are they allowed to continue working on it? Nintendo seriously needs to consider just buying out GF's 33% of Pokemon and have someone else develop the games at this point. Seriously, fucking why?

Management in Japan is a pretty big issue from what I see working here (I work in improvement, including management improvement).

They are in a weird position, some of the companies still managing like 50 years ago which is terrible and inefficient (and sometimes deadly for the employees), but on the other side some companies try to be younger and more international, and end up doing way too much and losing all logic and structure, losing their goal and priority in the process.

My current company, for exemple, got so excited about "3D printing" and "laser manufacturing" to be pioneers in Japan, that they invested a fortune in currently useless very expensive machines for R&D, while they completely "forgot" to keep money to buy spare parts or machines on the critical and fragile machine our entire production depends on. We obviously have only one machine like this, and the entire production stops anytime we have an issue with it. Great management, right ? 

Their usual excuse is that "no-one in the company has management training or experience", and it seems pretty usual because foreign friends in other companies tell me the same thing. It's entirely possible that the GF management is just completely incompetent and got lost in their "let's innovate with new titles" stuff. 



Jranation said:
Am I missing or not understanding something but I thought we all knew that?!?!

Ganefreak cant just make all pokemons in that graphic for a short amount of time.

Pokemon is the biggest franchise in the world. It generates more money than some small countries, and I'm not going to give them a pass I would give a small indie studio. It's not the 90s anymore, if they wanted to they could make a Pokemon game as GTA V, but they'd rather give and take features every gen, and now it seems that it will happen to the pokemon themselves as well.

And if it was just a matter of time, why not just wait an extra year, or focus on Sword/Shield instead of Let's Go? Why make US/UM immediately after Sun/Moon? Even recycling content from those games, that had to be time consuming.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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"the designers had to balance importing as many Pokémon as possible and updating them to these high standards while still keeping development deadlines. The team discussed many options, but finally decided to only allow Galar region Pokémon to be imported."

Translation: We didn't want to because money.



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Faelco said: 

It's entirely possible that the GF management is just completely incompetent

Hmm... I don't know, could it be?



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Faelco said:
RingoGaSuki said:

Now an interview straight from Game Freak's Masayuki Onoue, a programmer/director of Giga Wrecker Alt - stating that Pokemon isn't even GF's first priority at the moment.

If they aren't prioritising the biggest selling media franchise in the world, why are they allowed to continue working on it? Nintendo seriously needs to consider just buying out GF's 33% of Pokemon and have someone else develop the games at this point. Seriously, fucking why?

Management in Japan is a pretty big issue from what I see working here (I work in improvement, including management improvement).

They are in a weird position, some of the companies still managing like 50 years ago which is terrible and inefficient (and sometimes deadly for the employees), but on the other side some companies try to be younger and more international, and end up doing way too much and losing all logic and structure, losing their goal and priority in the process.

My current company, for exemple, got so excited about "3D printing" and "laser manufacturing" to be pioneers in Japan, that they invested a fortune in currently useless very expensive machines for R&D, while they completely "forgot" to keep money to buy spare parts or machines on the critical and fragile machine our entire production depends on. We obviously have only one machine like this, and the entire production stops anytime we have an issue with it. Great management, right ? 

Their usual excuse is that "no-one in the company has management training or experience", and it seems pretty usual because foreign friends in other companies tell me the same thing. It's entirely possible that the GF management is just completely incompetent and got lost in their "let's innovate with new titles" stuff. 

I've heard and experienced things like this many times during my time here in Japan too. I was working with management at an NGO and they wanted to spread a story, so they made an animation (one of the most terrible I've ever seen) and spent 200,000+ yen recording it professionally, but forgot to check the script before doing so, and ended up leaving a bunch of mistakes in, so they threw away all that money for nothing (and that's a fuckload for a non-profit). Friends at Rakuten have told me how poor management there is too. Seriously, leadership over here seems to just be awful no matter where you go. As you say, Game Freak is obviously no different, sadly.



Having read through a bunch of the actual Japanese, it's looking even worse than I thought.

Straight from Masuda. There will never be a Pokemon game that contains all of them again, ever.

He said -
"。。。今作から対応方針を変えることにしました。冒険の舞台に合わせて、拘って登場するポケモンを決めている。"

From this game forward, our policy has changed. Pokemon will be specifically chosen to match the setting of the adventure.

Don't expect any game to ever have 'em all again. Even if there's a DPPT remake, it will only have a limited selection of Pokemon, separate to SS, and they will not be compatible.

Last edited by RingoGaSuki - on 12 June 2019

RingoGaSuki said:
Faelco said:

Management in Japan is a pretty big issue from what I see working here (I work in improvement, including management improvement).

They are in a weird position, some of the companies still managing like 50 years ago which is terrible and inefficient (and sometimes deadly for the employees), but on the other side some companies try to be younger and more international, and end up doing way too much and losing all logic and structure, losing their goal and priority in the process.

My current company, for exemple, got so excited about "3D printing" and "laser manufacturing" to be pioneers in Japan, that they invested a fortune in currently useless very expensive machines for R&D, while they completely "forgot" to keep money to buy spare parts or machines on the critical and fragile machine our entire production depends on. We obviously have only one machine like this, and the entire production stops anytime we have an issue with it. Great management, right ? 

Their usual excuse is that "no-one in the company has management training or experience", and it seems pretty usual because foreign friends in other companies tell me the same thing. It's entirely possible that the GF management is just completely incompetent and got lost in their "let's innovate with new titles" stuff. 

I've heard and experienced things like this many times during my time here in Japan too. I was working with management at an NGO and they wanted to spread a story, so they made an animation (one of the most terrible I've ever seen) and spent 200,000+ yen recording it professionally, but forgot to check the script before doing so, and ended up leaving a bunch of mistakes in, so they threw away all that money for nothing (and that's a fuckload for a non-profit). Friends at Rakuten have told me how poor management there is too. Seriously, leadership over here seems to just be awful no matter where you go. As you say, Game Freak is obviously no different, sadly.

Compared to France, I almost never see here advertisement for management schools, and I think it makes sense. Leadership is non existent in Japan, the hierarchy is usually made depending on the age of people. When they get older, they get promoted, and nobody cares if they are good managers/leaders or not. They don't delegate either, the CEO decides a ton of small stuff, even if he doesn't know anything about it, because you don't have leaders under him. 

Seriously, they asked me to "manage from the bottom", because even the guys who are 4 or 5 levels above me in the company and "manage" 50 people have no idea how to manage a team or project. They're technical experts, but worthless as managers. 

Society being way more important than the individual, they are educated to be part of a strong society, but in the other hand they are "weaker" as individuals: no leadership, less initiatives, less problem solving capability, less innovation. They're great at following orders, but terrible at deciding the right orders. And of course, even if the manager gives terrible orders, people will obey without saying anything. 

Last edited by Faelco - on 12 June 2019

Ugh. I mean the game looks great, but this is a real shame.

Also they better not release a third version without offering it as dlc/discount to owners of the original. Same with Persona, Japanese developers need to stop that shit. It's not 2004 anymore. You shouldn't have to pay $60 for the game you already bought plus 5-20% more content.

Last edited by Barkley - on 12 June 2019

LTD Sales Predictions: PS4 - 130m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 52m
2019 Sales : PS4 - 15m, Switch - 18.8m, XBO - 4.8m
2020 Sales: Switch - 22m (Peak Year)

The Pokemon Direct already convinced me that I'll be waiting for either Sword & Shield 2/Ultra/3rd version/etc. or Gen 4 remakes, but wow now there's absolutely no chance I ever get this game. I guess the notable increase in laziness from Gamefreak since Ultra Sun/Moon is permament and applies to every game going forward.

RingoGaSuki said:

Having read through a bunch of the actual Japanese, it's looking even worse than I thought.

Straight from Masuda. There will never be a Pokemon game that contains all of them again, ever.

He said -
"。。。今作から対応方針を変えることにしました。冒険の舞台に合わせて、拘って登場するポケモンを決めている。"

From this game forward, our policy has changed. Pokemon will be specifically chosen to match the setting of the adventure.

Don't expect any game to ever have 'em all again. Even if there's a DPPT remake, it will only have a limited selection of Pokemon, separate to SS, and they will not be compatible.

Damn, guess I'm gonna be done with Pokemon then. A game could still be worth getting if the other content is really good, but knowing Gamefreak that'll never happen. It's sad I used to love this series so much. :(