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So do the PC backers who paid for a Steam version in the crowd funding get their money back? Deep Silver aren't doing themselves any favours.



Is Gabe Newell ever going to get his head out of the sand and respond to the threat that Epic poses? Valve still haven't matched Epic's developer profit sharing, still haven't started moneyhatting exclusives of their own. It's like he's just sitting up in his ivory tower watching as Epic steals more and more games and more and more of Steam's marketshare.



You can feel the scorn and dissapointment against Epic and Deep Silver in the video's comments. They are definitively not making friends with this announcement. I wonder if Valve is just waiting for Epic to get all the bad reputation it can get and then offer all of the improvements they were being asked for all these years. It makes no sense to not capitalize on your competition's bad press...



You know it deserves the GOTY.

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The faces still look pretty rough



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shikamaru317 said:

Is Gabe Newell ever going to get his head out of the sand and respond to the threat that Epic poses? Valve still haven't matched Epic's developer profit sharing, still haven't started moneyhatting exclusives of their own. It's like he's just sitting up in his ivory tower watching as Epic steals more and more games and more and more of Steam's marketshare.

It's not as simple as that Epic's aggressive approach is also self destructive which is what makes it problematic to approach as it may benefit developers but the store so far has no benefit for consumers as even now it's still lacking basic features, Epic are trying to create a situation where the is no alternative to their store by using the Fortnite profits but that only gets you so far it's not a good long term solution.



Wyrdness said:
shikamaru317 said:

Is Gabe Newell ever going to get his head out of the sand and respond to the threat that Epic poses? Valve still haven't matched Epic's developer profit sharing, still haven't started moneyhatting exclusives of their own. It's like he's just sitting up in his ivory tower watching as Epic steals more and more games and more and more of Steam's marketshare.

It's not as simple as that Epic's aggressive approach is also self destructive which is what makes it problematic to approach as it may benefit developers but the store so far has no benefit for consumers as even now it's still lacking basic features, Epic are trying to create a situation where the is no alternative to their store by using the Fortnite profits but that only gets you so far it's not a good long term solution.

It's my understanding that most of the missing features are on Epic's roadmap for addition later this year or early next year. Once those missing features are added Epic is going to be a very serious threat to Valve if Valve doesn't react soon.  



Seems like crowd funded developers are easy targets to be snatched up because they're poor and more easily drawn to money incentives. I personally don't get it. The money Epic offers can't possibly be worth it. So either the developers are complete morons, in dire financial peril or the exclusivity is really short.



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Sounds like I'm not getting into the series with this game. That said, I haven't played the first two yet, so they're on my list first.



shikamaru317 said:

Is Gabe Newell ever going to get his head out of the sand and respond to the threat that Epic poses? Valve still haven't matched Epic's developer profit sharing, still haven't started moneyhatting exclusives of their own. It's like he's just sitting up in his ivory tower watching as Epic steals more and more games and more and more of Steam's marketshare.

The developer profit sharing isn't quite as simple as "12% vs 30%".  

-Epic passes on some card costs onto the customer (which is often quite expensive), whereas Steam takes it out of the 30% and handles it themselves.  

-Steam also offers free steam keys for developers.  Developers can sell their game giving Steam a 0% cut.  

Valve probably can't afford to drop their cut like that.  They offer a ton of services to developers, such as SteamVR, a leaderboard API, controller API, Linux support.  Meanwhile EGS is taking months to support basic features like shopping carts.  

I don't think Steam is in danger of getting matched, let alone beaten by EGS. Especially from a feature standpoint.