If you have all those different options to play Xbox Games, then there isn't any point in buying an Xbox. I don't have a PC that can play the latest games so my only option to play Xbox Studio Games is to buy a console or stream now. I would rather buy a console in that case. A very large portion of people only play consoles, so if they want to play Xbox games like Halo, they will buy a console. 

B-. Decent presentation, games, and trailers, but lacking in gameplay, reveals, and substance. Flight Sim and Cyberpunk/Keanu were highlights.

I have a hunch both machine will be identical, Microsoft were actually announcing PS5 LOL. It will come down to feature , innovation (VR, controler gimmick) , service, price and first party quality. 

Nothing will change, Next gen battle is just a continuation of this gen battle. All PS fans will just migrate to PS5. That's why Microsoft is now focusing on Xcloud. Their console is an assurance to their old fans. 

EDIT: For appearance on AMD, i am not sure, because AMD will announce some GPU for PC, so i think SOny will keep quiet until next year. 

8/10. Very good, not spectacular. Very safe, as expected. Idk what some people are smoking with this idea that Sony bailing on E3 meant MS should have went balls to the wall blowing their entire next gen xCloud wad.

They showcased 14 of their own games. That’s a ton of Microsoft games. Yet the goal posts are shifting, it’s still not good enough for some because we already knew about some of them, or they aren’t “big enough”.

And what they did show, we know it will all be out by the end of 2020. That’s what I love most about MS E3’s, it’s very rare of them to show something that is years and years off. And what they showed mostly looked great. The Ori boss trailer was fucking amazing. It’s sad that PS4 owners will be able to buy Wasteland 3 on their console but not something beautiful like Ori. Mother fucking Battletoads with 3 player couch co-op... yes please. The greatest racing game ever gets an amazing expansion. Is there anything more Forza Horizon than watching a Lego race car land a huge jump while racing against an old Camaro and Chevelle while a huge truck flies by on a straight away?

Outer Worlds gave me a big Fallout 3 vibe, which can only mean good things. Flight Simulator looked gorgeous and is coming to console. Age of Empires II looked great. They bought Double Fine. An amazing studio. Bleeding Edge is right up my alley as a Battleborn fanboy.

Only potential negative was Wasteland 3, HUGE shift in tone from 2. But if the game plays well, I’m all for it.

Yea, my guess it they will both be ~10% of one another. Nothing drastic like the ~40% we saw at the beginning of this gen. Sony will definitely have them beat on VR, especially if the wireless model is an actual thing. I also have a feeling they are more willing to take a larger loss on HW, so will beat them on price, even if it's only by ~$50. And I agree, the focus on xCloud is very telling.

As for AMD, I know it's not guaranteed Sony will be there, but AMD has definitely been talking up their partnership as of late. I remain hopefully optimistic. At worst, it'll still be interesting to finally learn about Navi and we'll just have to wait for PSX to hear about the PS5.

3/10

Another overpriced controller, lack of compelling new games, lack of usful info on XCloud, lack of info on Next Box, and mostly CGI.

My score is mostly based on how let down I was personally though. Was reallu hoping for the Fable 4 rumors to be true. Halo as a launch game was a very smart move however IMO, just wish they would have shown more.

The only new first party games they announced were bleeding edge and flight simulator. I think that's why most people are disappointed. Expectations were high for this e3, and MS hyping the show up as their biggest ever didn't help the matter. It's not that we already knew about "some" of them. We knew about all of them except bleeding edge and flight simulator, and a good chunk of them are games that are already out. Some of the best things they showed.

I was expecting a Fable announcement didn't get it. I was expecting Halo Gameplay, didn't get it. I was expecting at least one big surprise, didn't get it.

It was a good show, it just wasn't a good XBOX show. Outer Worlds trailer was a highlight, that's a multi-plat game.

New Game Announcements:

Bleeding Edge (Eh, don't expect this to be big or well liked)
Flight Simulator (I mean it's good for what it is, but most people don't care.)

it was a good show to watch but only 1 new ip - all games bar a few were multiplat

That’s cool and people are entitled to their opinions, but personally I won’t fault MS for others unrealistic expectations. If this were E3 2020, most of these points would hold more weight. But there’s still a whole ‘nother E3 before their next gen launch, that’s where you can expect announcements on new games from most of these studios, and gameplay to boot. 

Games take years to make, and now you throw in a change in corporate ownership for these studios, and next gen hardware. What exactly are they supposed to show? Of course it’s going to be stuff we already know about. To hope for or to expect otherwise is just setting yourself up to be disappointed.

They showed plenty of good stuff. I don’t care if we already knew about some of it. And what did they show for stuff already out besides two of their games? Maybe I’m missing something but the Forza expansion, State of Decay expansion, wasn’t that it for stuff already out? Please correct me if I’m wrong. 2 out of 14 is a “good chunk”? You’re really going to say the Heartland SoD2 expansion was as good as Outer Worlds or Ori or Minecraft Dungeons, among others? Yikes if so.

"You’re really going to say the Heartland SoD2 expansion was as good as Outer Worlds or Ori or Minecraft Dungeons" - Er not sure what gave you that impression, no I don't put the state of decay dlc anywhere near any of those three games. It's worth nothing that 2 of those three games are launching on other consoles.

But as far as I can tell here's the 14 first party games they showed:

1. Ori
2. Battletoads
3. Halo Infinite
4. Gears 5
5. State of Decay 2
6. Bleeding Edge
7. Age of Empires 2 Definitive Edition
8. Forza Horizon 4
9. FLIGHT SIMULATOR
10. Psychonauts 2 (guess this counts as they announced they bought them)
11. Gears Funko
12. The Outer Worlds
13. Minecraft Dungeons
14. Halo MCC??? (wasn't really shown they just mentioned REACH coming out on PC.)

So 4 out of 14 or 28% (State of Decay 2, Forza, Gears Funko, Halo MCC), whether you class over a quarter as a "good chunk" well it's not exactly a hard science. It's also possible Halo MCC isn't one of them and I've missed something but can't think of what.

But yeah you're entitled to your opinion, as are everyone else and the general consensus seems to be disappointment. I thought I'd look up what crapgamer was saying for shits and giggles and even him and his goons are disappointed.

It was a 6 or 7/10 show for me, mainly because it didn't drag, other than perhaps the 1 minute section where we had to stare at a face because gears. But it wasn't a show to sell Xbox Consoles.

Edit: Just looked it up and Gears Pop isn't out? Someone on here told me they'd been playing it but I think perhaps it's just in beta, dunno.