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Mnementh said:

Abgeordnetenentschädigung

Say what? :D



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m0ney said:
Mnementh said:

Abgeordnetenentschädigung

Say what? :D

It's an Entschädigung for Abgeordnete. It's really not that difficult.



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vivster said:
Mnementh said:

You… forgot?

The 'Die Humanisten' got 62,613 votes or 0.2%, not enough for a seat.

https://www.bundeswahlleiter.de/europawahlen/2019/ergebnisse/bund-99.html#stimmentabelle10

Hey, it's not like I have a clock on my desk always showing me when to vote for what. I only noticed it in the evening because of the google doodle, but it was too late.

I want to be proud that they at least got that many votes but then I'm looking at what other smaller parties have gotten even more votes. This world is terrible.

Yeah, the humanists were also among the parties I considered, but I decided in the end for DieM25 - which also didn't get enough for a seat.

m0ney said:
Mnementh said:

Abgeordnetenentschädigung

Say what? :D

Yeah well, the work as a representative (Abgeordneter) is so damaging to ones soul, that you need reparation (Entschädigung). That's why Abgeordnetenentschädigung.



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Mnementh said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

That's actually rather low compared to some countries. I was honestly expecting 8k+

Yeah. I just looked up how it is here in germany:

"Die Abgeordnetenentschädigung beträgt seit dem 1. Juli 2018 monatlich 9.780,28 Euro."

This means since 2018 the member of german Bundestag (national parliament) get 9780,28€ per month (and yes, these 28 cents are totally important, probably result of a percentage-increase they applied).

Da kann ich über!

An US senator receives $174 000 per year plus benefits, which is $14 500 per month.  And that's just the Rank-and-file Members, higher members get higher wages. Majority and Minority Party leaders receive $193 400 ($16 117 per month), while the Speaker of the House gets $223 500 ($18 625 per month): https://www.thoughtco.com/salaries-and-benefits-of-congress-members-3322282



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Mnementh said:

Yeah. I just looked up how it is here in germany:

"Die Abgeordnetenentschädigung beträgt seit dem 1. Juli 2018 monatlich 9.780,28 Euro."

This means since 2018 the member of german Bundestag (national parliament) get 9780,28€ per month (and yes, these 28 cents are totally important, probably result of a percentage-increase they applied).

Da kann ich über!

An US senator receives $174 000 per year plus benefits, which is $14 500 per month.  And that's just the Rank-and-file Members, higher members get higher wages. Majority and Minority Party leaders receive $193 400 ($16 117 per month), while the Speaker of the House gets $223 500 ($18 625 per month): https://www.thoughtco.com/salaries-and-benefits-of-congress-members-3322282

I should tell this the members of our parliament. They probably will adapt their income to match the ones from the US. In questions of the money they receive they are kinda effective and fast in getting it done.



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Flilix said:
Well, since I'm Belgian, I have to vote. The national elections are more interesting to me though (they're also tomorrow).

I still don't know who to vote for. Every voting test gives me a different result. Aside from the extremes, each party has its pros and cons.

As a Belgian i did not vote,i gladly accept a fine before voting for people i do not want to vote for.



Immersiveunreality said:
Flilix said:
Well, since I'm Belgian, I have to vote. The national elections are more interesting to me though (they're also tomorrow).

I still don't know who to vote for. Every voting test gives me a different result. Aside from the extremes, each party has its pros and cons.

As a Belgian i did not vote,i gladly accept a fine before voting for people i do not want to vote for.

This way of thinking never really made sense to me. It's not like they can do anything with votes, only the number of votes compared to other parties matter (and not the absolute number). I mean, you don't like or dislike every single party exactly equally much, right? So even if you only dislike one party a little bit more than the rest, you'd still take a tiny part out of their voting share by voting for any other party.



Flilix said:
Immersiveunreality said:

As a Belgian i did not vote,i gladly accept a fine before voting for people i do not want to vote for.

This way of thinking never really made sense to me. It's not like they can do anything with votes, only the number of votes compared to other parties matter (and not the absolute number). I mean, you don't like or dislike every single party exactly equally much, right? So even if you only dislike one party a little bit more than the rest, you'd still take a tiny part out of their voting share by voting for any other party.

I currently do not know enough about any party to make a decent vote,i used to follow recordings of them debating eachother but stopped watching those because it got me too annoyed. I also do not trust most media in their coverings about politics and i do not believe in empty promises to gain votes.

if i could have voted on a small starting party i might had invested time into researching those but im not going to make any blind decisions



There's a Brexit Party? I honestly was not aware of that.. Guess I'm perpetuating the stereotype of the ignorant American XD.

I have to ask to you Europeans, is this sudden rise of Nationalism (mainly right-wing leaning populism) mainly a backlash to globalism/immigration, etc, or is there more to it than that that I'm missing? It interests me b/c I feel there seems to be largely a repeat of "Trumpism" happening in many countries there now (England w/Brexit, France w/the protest and Le Penn, Poland, Italy, etc..)



DarthMetalliCube said:
There's a Brexit Party? I honestly was not aware of that.. Guess I'm perpetuating the stereotype of the ignorant American XD.

I have to ask to you Europeans, is this sudden rise of Nationalism (mainly right-wing leaning populism) mainly a backlash to globalism/immigration, etc, or is there more to it than that that I'm missing? It interests me b/c I feel there seems to be largely a repeat of "Trumpism" happening in many countries there now (England w/Brexit, France w/the protest and Le Penn, Poland, Italy, etc..)

No shame in not knowing Brexit party outside of the UK, as they were founded six months ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brexit_Party

The leader Nigel Farage was before a member of UKIP.

About the rise of nationalism… many speculate about the reasons for that. That was by the way happening before Trump already, I feel Trump is more like part of the phenomenon, not a special case.

I personally think this has to do with economical differences created in part by globalization. In the last decades in the western world (europe, north america) the differences between rich and poor get bigger and bigger. This is a result of policies installed by Reagan and Thatcher and then followed by Bill Clinton and Tony Blair. We had similar things happen in many countries, in germany for instance Helmut Kohl (conservative) was followed by social democrat Gerhard Schröder.

All of them realized economic reforms, that in the end helped the economy along the globalization, but at the cost that social securities were cut and some people fell through the cracks. At the start this were only a few, but over time more and more people felt lost economical, seeing the country flourishing and rich people get more rich, while these people had a hard time to come by. You can see it at the rise of people, that are unable to stem unexpected expenses, like if your car breaks suddenly down you don't have enough to repair it. And this development was slowly, at first only a few people were lost along the lines.

Politics mostly ignored them, at first this was without repercussion as these were too few. For a long time then no one cared about them. Until nationalists realized their chance and blamed everything on migrants and globalization (although globalization itself would be fine as long economic policies would provide social security adapted to globalization). This is in my opinion the reason, nationalists targeting the poor and classic politicians ignoring them. This includes the left, which in the past was for the poor man, but mostly ignored the struggles in the past and focused more on identity politics and climate change. Without a doubt important topics, but they ignored the poor people.This feeling of being ignored by classic politics led more and more to anger, which is utilized by the nationalists.

EDIT: By the way, your sig shows this. Back then movies like They live showed the struggles of poor people. Remember the main characters being poor (and moreso a white and a black guy working together both being poor and both being in the same situation) and all the obey, consume stuff is symbolic for the situation. This movie wasn't alone, many movies back then showed poor people, also tv shows, remember Roseanne. But Hollywood elites stopped caring about poor people, this leading to todays movies practically never use poor people as heroes or even displaying the struggles of poor people. This is all part of the feeling of many, that all the "above", be it in politics or media, ignore the poor. This feeling of being outside is what helped the nationalists taking over.

Last edited by Mnementh - on 28 May 2019

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