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Bofferbrauer2 said:
KLXVER said:

Yet we pay more. I would love to have a 300$ Switch for example.

Edit: Actually the dollar is pretty strong right now, so its not that much of a difference.lol

Yeah, and our price in Europe includes VAT. Add VAT on US consoles and they're more expensive in the US anyway.

Don't US consumers pay  sales tax at a state by state level?



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mjk45 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Yeah, and our price in Europe includes VAT. Add VAT on US consoles and they're more expensive in the US anyway.

Don't US consumers pay  sales tax at a state by state level?

State and local (city or county...sometimes both).  So you can get state, county and city sales taxes all at once. 

What he is alluding to is the fact that VAT is displayed in the price.  US prices are always displayed pre-tax.   So a $300 console might cost as much as $336 after taxes depending on location.



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vivster said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I think Venezuela is a good choice.

Countries destroyed by communism are always great for producing crap.

Or Africa! Countries destroyed by capitalism are always great for producing crap.

Please elaborate! I'd love to see the mental gymnastics required to make this point.



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KManX89 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

That's more of libertarian thing.

I'm kinda indifferent about this because democrats admit they want raise taxes significantly. So its not like the alternative is a better scenario per se. Frankly, they want people to have less buying power.

So... lets see how this ends I guess.

Nope, you always hear Republicans decry taxes as the next coming of Satan, how the government should leave millionaires/billionaires/mega corporations and their piles of cash alone.

It'll be interesting to see them try and DEFEND raising taxes now that their orange overlord is waging war with China and will be effectively slapping a $600 price tag on next-gen consoles, which I'm willing to bet has happened already. The hypocrisy there will be fucking hilarious to see.

Me thinks democrats actually like the trade war just as an excuse to attack Trump. Dems brag about wanting to raise taxes which affects everybody, rich and poor. Meanwhile republicans like to talk about cutting taxes and spending, but are ironically are big spenders as well.

I don't deny the irony at all, that's the great thing about being in the center. But maybe there is also irony in left wingers mocking Trump for higher taxes when his opposition is objectively huge proponents of higher taxes on everybody.

On a side note, its not like the people mocking Trump have solutions to dealing with the threat that is China. Instead people on the left seem to deny China is even a problem which is odd when you take everything into consideration.



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haxxiy said:

The "Yahoo" brand of internet services and the company which owns 16% shares on Alibaba have nothing to do with each other nowadays. The former is owned by Verizon, and the latter (which is literally over an order of magnitude more valuable than the Yahoo brand itself) is an independent investment company going by another name.

Either way, the censorship of Google predates these deals by years.

I believe you have that backwards.  Yahoo invested $1 billion into Alibaba back in 2005 (40% ownership).  China started blocking Google services in 2009 (Youtube) with another round of blocks in 2011 (Docs, Sites, Plus) and most being blocked in 2014 (Search, APIs, Gmail). 

While true the 2017 Verizon/Yahoo deal (known as Altaba and still has a 16% stake in Alibaba) is very different, that's not how it was back when Google was getting blocked...and Yahoo was not.

You're right. It's not the censorship of Google specifically, but of the Internet that predates the deal. Either way, Yahoo is not, and has never been, a popular search engine in China. Even today it's behing Google and Bing.

If someone believes it was lobbying, they have at least to agree it's piss poor lobbying. The main beneficiaries of the censorship have been Baidu, Soso and Sugou... Alibaba's direct competitors in the internet services market.



 

 

 

 

 

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Lafiel said:
yea, saw that one coming from a mile away

next gen might be 500€ for us euro-poors and $600+ in glorious freedom land

HAHAHA, Glorious Freedom Land =D

Made my day.



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Hopefully this is all over by the time next gen consoles come out....Trump isn't going to want this lasting while he is up for re-election...



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epicurean said:
Hopefully this is all over by the time next gen consoles come out....Trump isn't going to want this lasting while he is up for re-election...

why not? if he can't get a real war going an economic war is his best chance to present himself as tough and manly



Lafiel said:
epicurean said:
Hopefully this is all over by the time next gen consoles come out....Trump isn't going to want this lasting while he is up for re-election...

why not? if he can't get a real war going an economic war is his best chance to present himself as tough and manly

I don't think economic wars spur the same type of "FREEDOM!" response as having to pay more for the stuff you want.

Of course, he could do it anyway, would just be dumb. And would probably result in him losing the election, so we'd just have to wait till like Feb 2021 to get all the new toys.



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epicurean said:
Hopefully this is all over by the time next gen consoles come out....Trump isn't going to want this lasting while he is up for re-election...

Its difficult being the president when a new console generation starts because they always get blamed if it doesn't go well.

I still blame Obama for the Xbox One debacle, but it got much better under Trump. Some say Trump demanded MS fix Halo MCC.



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