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Intrinsic said:

Nope, you can't fight them again after beating them.... don't worry though, they get harder. And there are a couple of other optional bosses to fight, like the travelers and the elemental golems.

If you beat her on your first attempt, then I strongly recommend you using the difficulty, you a too good for the current difficulty setting you are at. That also probably explains why you aren't a fan of the ax. You need to play on give me a challenge at least.... that will force you to learn and use all the nuances of the combat system. And oh my will you come to love the Axe throw. Especially the precision ax throw,

If I can't fight them again, then I might want to save them for later when I'm more experienced with the combat system.
Am I able to miss out on any Valkyries if I ignore them until I beat the game?

Also, since you said 'they get harder' does that mean there is a set order in which you can fight them? I noticed I can light up some torches on the Lake of Nine that has the Valkyries names, and I wondered if that is what lets me access them?

I fought my second Valkyrie, and I decided to still try on the same difficulty and see how it goes, and this time she beat me the first time. I won on the second try, though I think it came down to the random elements. The enemies she spawns, and that I got more life items to drop on the stage.

I went and got the black rune in Tyr's vault.

And I stopped playing once I found a third Valkyrie, on the way to Jotenheim. I'll probably fight it, and I'll try a higher difficulty, but after that I may save them until the end of the game, or when I have all the skills I want.

As for the axe, yeah there are a number of skills I haven't unlocked for it.

Though I have everything unlocked for Atreus and the Chaos Blades that's possible to unlock so far, so I should be able to get all the remaining axe skills considering I have 100k exp points left to use.
I do have the precision axe throw though, and it is pretty fun for times I want to keep my distance.

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DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:

Ya I think weapon and skill upgrades through flames were mostly if not always through story, since you're always running into the shops afterwards where you can use those items to have the blacksmiths oh so elegantly craft your upgrades.

The skills allow for different play styles. It changes or enhances the combat. If you think the combat is boring, acquiring skills will help with that. The more skills you acquire the deadlier you and the boy become and the more options you have. Don't forget about the boy. Making sure he has more better skills and that his armor and weapons are upgraded is more important than you might think. He can be much more helpful, but then again, that may not be your style and may not fit your combat tastes.

Hiku said:

Hmm, didn't expect that. I'll keep that in mind going forward, but maybe I'll find a balance between story and side quests, rather than just doing every single optional thing possible as soon as it becomes available.
I have 9 out 9 Apples, so maybe I maxed out my HP through that mechanic already (unless there is more), but not feeling like I made meaningful progress through the side quests made them less interesting last few times I played. But things like saving the dragon was interesting. And I understand there are a few more as well.

I tried to keep it balanced when I played. Some purple enemies are really tough fights but doable, but some like the one or two shots just aren't worth it so it's best to leave them be and move on to something more reasonable or advance through the story some more. Dragon saving is interesting, but there's one who's a unique encounter and I really enjoyed that portion.

Hiku said:

Alright, that's about what I expected.

Ya like with DonF mentioning 40%, I'd say your 40% at the most. I was figuring around 25% at the least, so say 30% to 40%, somewhere in there.

Well if you are masochist the purple enemies that one shot you are the way to go =p

The Valkyrie Queen on GmGoW is the perfect excuse for someone to hate himself to self-punish =p

Have yet to fight her. Based on how things have typically gone with the Val's on give me a challenge, I've been patiently moving through the rest of them to eventually get absolutely wrecked by their queen. lol

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Intrinsic said:
I have just one question...... what difficulty are you plying o and have you fought a Valkyrie?

I know that sounds like 2 questions but trust me you will understand that it's just one. Depending on the difficulty you are playing.

There are two worlds you will totally hate..... one of gas and one of fire.

I'm playing on "Give Me A Balanced Experience", and I encountered and beat my first Valkyrie last time I played.
She gave me a helmet.

These are the next two I have to fight. The gas realm I was not a fan of and was the first time I dropped the challenge mode to give me a story for a short period until I got some better gear. Then I put the challenge more back up. We'll see how this goes with the gas Val. If the other's weren't tough enough without the gas, I have a feeling this one is really gunna push the limits.

Intrinsic said:
Hiku said:

Had a fun session last time I played. Did a couple of side quests, including saving another dragon.

Then continued the story. Encountered a giant with a huge hammer that I was supposed to bring down to smash a block of ice.

It was a cool sequence climbing the hammer and bringing it down. The only weird thing is... I never saw the hammer smash the ice. Did it happen off screen? Cause I was looking forward to seeing it, so that was a bit of a letdown. Even afterwards I was unsure if I actually finished the hammer sequence, but I got the chisel, so I guess?

The boss fight against the two brothers was pretty fun. My only issue was that when I was supposed to watch the arrows for incoming attacks, I could barely ever  make out whether the arrow is pointing up, down, left or right

Now that I'm looking at it I think it's pointing southwest, but it threw me off all the time while I was in the heat of the moment. Maybe the direction it's pointing in is always a bit thicker, but I didn't notice while playing.

Then I encountered and beat the first Valkyrie.

This fight was really cool. I enjoyed it a lot because of the design of the enemy.

She gave me a helmet. I'm guessing I'll be able to make Valkyrie gear later?

I also got the Blades of Chaos. I had seen that scene before on youtube, so I was expecting it. But I also expected the reason for it to be something more than "your axe conveniently won't work on the enemies you're about to encounter"
The scene leading up to it was really well made though. Seeing Kratos anxiously pacing around while carrying Atreus, and hearing someone use the horn to call the World Serpent in the background was a nice touch. But the scene where he got his weapons back seemed like a a missed opportunity. It's not like what he was doing with his axe up until this point was much different than what he had used his blades for in the previous games. And when I had previously seen that scene without context, I imagined Athena said "you will always be a monster" not only because of what he has done before, but because of something he had done recently as well. That wasn't really the case, so yeah. I do appreciate that this game focuses more on the narrative, but it seems like they could still improve the writing a lot, without even expecting something like The Last of Us.

The Blades of Chaos are fun to use though. I think I'll enjoy fighting regular enemies more form now on.
I'm on my way to Helheim now. Not sure how far into the game I am, but based on previous comments, I guess 40-50%?

1.) Actually I've focused on upgrading the boy much more than I have Kratos. Partially because I felt like that will be more useful to me, but also because I know I'll get the Blades of Chaos so I'm thinking saving some points for that might be good.
And now I did get the blades, but haven't looked into upgrading them yet as I stopped playing right after. But so far they feel more fun to me than the axe.

2.) Yeah I tried doing those purple enemies anyway at first, just for the reward. All except a pair of witches that were too difficult, so I decided to leave them for later. If I encounter more that I can't defeat within the first few turns then I'lll just do the same there and save them for later.

3.) I may have been misleading in where I was in the game last time, because I said I'm on my way to Jotenheim, but turns out I didn't go there, as the story now takes me to Helheim instead. I'm guessing I'm 40-50% into the game now or something?

Well I beat her on the first try, but it was close because I didn't know when to parry at first.

I may try adjusting the difficulty next time, since you can do it any time from a checkpoint. Is there any way to re-fight them after being them?
I hope the rest of them are as cool as this one.

Nope, you can't fight them again after beating them.... don't worry though, they get harder. And there are a couple of other optional bosses to fight, like the travelers and the elemental golems.

If you beat her on your first attempt, then I strongly recommend you using the difficulty, you a too good for the current difficulty setting you are at. That also probably explains why you aren't a fan of the ax. You need to play on give me a challenge at least.... that will force you to learn and use all the nuances of the combat system. And oh my will you come to love the Axe throw. Especially the precision ax throw,

Give me a challenge mode was definitely more fun for me. I died a lot on the first couple Val's before I realized I couldn't just hack and slash my way through them and had to be more strategic. Once I figured it out, it was really fun. I got so close a couple times before they took me out, but I wouldn't come equipped to revive because I didn't want to make it any easier. After the first couple Val's it only took a couple attempts for the one's following, but none were easy, as I never had all that much health when the fight was complete. The Val's definitely get more aggressive as the fight goes on and you have to be on your toes near the end of the encounter or they'll Valhalla you to death. lol

Hiku

Sounds like your having a better time. I didn't want to spoil anything for you, as I find that experiencing as you go tends to be more fun, aside from not completely understanding the mechanics and being held back by that lack of knowledge.

1. The blades are more fun but the axe is very useful, you just need to learn how to use it strategically. Going back and forth between them quickly makes combat way more efficient and you can just slaughter groups of enemies.

2. The two witches are tough. I saved them for later on in the game. There were two or three frost reavers near a dragon that I also left until later. Some of the purples are doable so I did them when I could as well. A really tough fight now and again keeps it interesting.

3. I had a good idea of where you were, and that you wouldn't be going to Jotenheim next, but I wasn't going to spoil that. You're somewhere around 50% give or take.



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Hehe... the torches.... light them away :)

You can fight the vals in any order you want. And even after beating the game you can seek them out and fight them. Some are definitely harder than others.



EricHiggin said:

Sounds like your having a better time. I didn't want to spoil anything for you, as I find that experiencing as you go tends to be more fun, aside from not completely understanding the mechanics and being held back by that lack of knowledge.

1. The blades are more fun but the axe is very useful, you just need to learn how to use it strategically. Going back and forth between them quickly makes combat way more efficient and you can just slaughter groups of enemies.

2. The two witches are tough. I saved them for later on in the game. There were two or three frost reavers near a dragon that I also left until later. Some of the purples are doable so I did them when I could as well. A really tough fight now and again keeps it interesting.

3. I had a good idea of where you were, and that you wouldn't be going to Jotenheim next, but I wasn't going to spoil that. You're somewhere around 50% give or take.

Yeah, it's been pretty positive all around now, and I'm also liking the characters better after things like the wine drinking scene, and I'm wondering where the story will go with Atreus starting to act bad.

1. Switching between them mid combo (if that's possible) sounds interesting, so I'll try some stuff out and see how I can use them together.

2. The two witches were on my way back to Jotenheim actually, so I tried fighting them again. This time they were yellow instead of purple, but they still killed me 3 times before I managed to finally get them.

Btw, is there any way to miss out on fighting Valkyries?If I go to the end of the game without fighting them for example, will they still be accessible?

I'm going to make extra save files on them so that I can fight them again later.



Hiku said:
EricHiggin said:

Sounds like your having a better time. I didn't want to spoil anything for you, as I find that experiencing as you go tends to be more fun, aside from not completely understanding the mechanics and being held back by that lack of knowledge.

1. The blades are more fun but the axe is very useful, you just need to learn how to use it strategically. Going back and forth between them quickly makes combat way more efficient and you can just slaughter groups of enemies.

2. The two witches are tough. I saved them for later on in the game. There were two or three frost reavers near a dragon that I also left until later. Some of the purples are doable so I did them when I could as well. A really tough fight now and again keeps it interesting.

3. I had a good idea of where you were, and that you wouldn't be going to Jotenheim next, but I wasn't going to spoil that. You're somewhere around 50% give or take.

Yeah, it's been pretty positive all around now, and I'm also liking the characters better after things like the wine drinking scene, and I'm wondering where the story will go with Atreus starting to act bad.

1. Switching between them mid combo (if that's possible) sounds interesting, so I'll try some stuff out and see how I can use them together.

2. The two witches were on my way back to Jotenheim actually, so I tried fighting them again. This time they were yellow instead of purple, but they still killed me 3 times before I managed to finally get them.

Btw, is there any way to miss out on fighting Valkyries?If I go to the end of the game without fighting them for example, will they still be accessible?

I'm going to make extra save files on them so that I can fight them again later.

The closer you get to the end the better it get's, and at the end, it get's really, really, intriguing...

You have to get through the Val's to get to the queen. If you run into one that seems unbeatable, try another and return later when you've leveled up some. They each are unique and they seem to range from easy to medium to hard.



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Well made game. The passion and hard work of the developers is clearly visible. Can't wait for the next installment in the franchise!



Hiku said:
Intrinsic said:

Nope, you can't fight them again after beating them.... don't worry though, they get harder. And there are a couple of other optional bosses to fight, like the travelers and the elemental golems.

If you beat her on your first attempt, then I strongly recommend you using the difficulty, you a too good for the current difficulty setting you are at. That also probably explains why you aren't a fan of the ax. You need to play on give me a challenge at least.... that will force you to learn and use all the nuances of the combat system. And oh my will you come to love the Axe throw. Especially the precision ax throw,

If I can't fight them again, then I might want to save them for later when I'm more experienced with the combat system.
Am I able to miss out on any Valkyries if I ignore them until I beat the game?

Also, since you said 'they get harder' does that mean there is a set order in which you can fight them? I noticed I can light up some torches on the Lake of Nine that has the Valkyries names, and I wondered if that is what lets me access them?

There's no set order, and the more experienced you are with the combat the easier they become. While the fights are a lot of fun they share similarities between one another.

The only fight that is in order, and one in which combat experience is important, is the final Valkyrie.



Zoombael said:
IkePoR said:
Criticism having not played a game - "You can't judge it you haven't even played it"

Criticism having played a game - "If you don't like it, why play it?"

Interesting.

If this is directed at what i posted its delicately misplaced.

Not quite.  Half the posts in the thread before my own asked Hiku this.



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Hiku said:
EricHiggin said:

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Btw, is there any way to miss out on fighting Valkyries?If I go to the end of the game without fighting them for example, will they still be accessible?

I'm going to make extra save files on them so that I can fight them again later.

Yes you can still fight the Valkyries even after you beaten the game and do the rest off the side quests.



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