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ptofhearts said:

Thanks for the info. So the Switch has a lot of potential since it's definitely not peaked yet. With well-placed price cuts and the possibility of revisions it may skyrocket and become one of the highest selling consoles ever.

Is it realistic to think it can match the DS? The market is pretty crowded today but for some reason I feel like just upgrading hardware isn't going to be enough going forward and unless PS5 and XBOX whatever are really impressive...

I guess we'll see.

It's going to be a long road to reach DS numbers, but it's possible. The growing length of developing times for games makes it preferable for console manufacturers to extend the length of a generation, so Switch should have more than the six years that the 3DS and DS had before their respective successor launched.

It's unrealistic to expect Switch to match the sales pace of the DS (had three years in a row with almost 30m each), but a longer lifespan than the DS had makes it feasible to finish with similar lifetime sales. The circumstances for a long lifespan are favorable:

1. Switch is the only console Nintendo has to support, something that hasn't been the case since the 1980s. Whereas in the past the teams that worked on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe/ARMS, Splatoon 2 and Super Mario Odyssey would be making their next game for a different console, this time around they are lining up another Switch game, so the probability to sustain high Switch hardware sales increases significantly.

2. The third party support that matters isn't going to go away. The gaming landscape in Japan has seen a change from five consoles (Xbox 360 had relevance despite low sales because Microsoft was throwing money at developers) to only two after Nintendo fused their consoles, Sony exited the handheld market and Microsoft is a non-factor. For most Japanese developers, it's not realistic to plan without Nintendo. In the rest of the world, indie developers greatly appreciate a portable console because their target demographics see increased value in playing indie games on both the TV and anywhere else. A big factor why the DS could sustain high sales for so long was the wealth of third party support it received, even without AAA third party support.

3. There's no company in sight who will challenge Switch head-on. This means Nintendo has no need to rush a successor, because it is highly discouraging for all other companies that even PlayStation joined the graveyard in portable console gaming.



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DonFerrari said:
We certainly could make a thread with

If WW Switch is basically aligned with PS4, why in Japan it is selling at over double the pace if not for portability being the major point in JAPAN?

Go ahead and make that thread. But don't be surprised when you get to hear that Sony's weak first party output is a bigger reason for the difference than portability. Software sells hardware, after all. Hence why the stationary PS4 sold better than the portable Vita.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Gamers Club

RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:
We certainly could make a thread with

If WW Switch is basically aligned with PS4, why in Japan it is selling at over double the pace if not for portability being the major point in JAPAN?

Go ahead and make that thread. But don't be surprised when you get to hear that Sony's weak first party output is a bigger reason for the difference than portability. Software sells hardware, after all. Hence why the stationary PS4 sold better than the portable Vita.

Software does sale hardware, but hardware also plays a major role. Wii U is a prime example of that, it had some fantastic nintendo games yet is sold like the vita.

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ptofhearts said:
Great sales. How is it doing in comparison to the 3DS when aligned? At first I didn't think the Switch could go past 20m in Japan even though the 3DS did, since it's half portable half home console, but now I can see it happening.
Also, the switch has been consistently outselling the PS4 in the US as well if I'm not mistaken, and sales in Europe are great too (even though they haven't reached PS4 levels).
Is it possible that the Switch will ultimately outsell the PS4 lifetime?

Nintendo still have some tricks under their sleeves such as a Slimmer/cheaper version + Pro version and price drops. 



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RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:
We certainly could make a thread with

If WW Switch is basically aligned with PS4, why in Japan it is selling at over double the pace if not for portability being the major point in JAPAN?

Go ahead and make that thread. But don't be surprised when you get to hear that Sony's weak first party output is a bigger reason for the difference than portability. Software sells hardware, after all. Hence why the stationary PS4 sold better than the portable Vita.

The week SW of PS4 doesn't seem to have stopped PS4 to reach 100M



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DonFerrari said:
We certainly could make a thread with

If WW Switch is basically aligned with PS4, why in Japan it is selling at over double the pace if not for portability being the major point in JAPAN?

I dont get your question. Are you trying to say that Portability is NOT one of the reasons why the Switch is selling in Japan? 



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DonFerrari said:
RolStoppable said:

Go ahead and make that thread. But don't be surprised when you get to hear that Sony's weak first party output is a bigger reason for the difference than portability. Software sells hardware, after all. Hence why the stationary PS4 sold better than the portable Vita.

The week SW of PS4 doesn't seem to have stopped PS4 to reach 100M

In the previous post you were talking about Japan. Now you don't want to talk about Japan anymore.

EDIT: A couple of links for the people who are interested in learning why Switch has sold so much faster than the PS4 in Japan.

PS4 software sorted by Japanese sales
Switch software sorted by Japanese sales

Nintendo alone published more big hits in two years than Sony and all of their third party partners combined published through five years. Portability of the console helps, but it would be worthless without the games. It isn't as simple as saying that a Sony console would sell like a Nintendo console if the Sony console were portable, because at the end of the day it's the games that matter more than anything else.

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Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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Jranation said:
DonFerrari said:
We certainly could make a thread with

If WW Switch is basically aligned with PS4, why in Japan it is selling at over double the pace if not for portability being the major point in JAPAN?

I dont get your question. Are you trying to say that Portability is NOT one of the reasons why the Switch is selling in Japan? 

It is the main big reason. Basically the opposite of what the OP is trying to defend.

RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:

The week SW of PS4 doesn't seem to have stopped PS4 to reach 100M

In the previous post you were talking about Japan. Now you don't want to talk about Japan anymore.

EDIT: A couple of links for the people who are interested in learning why Switch has sold so much faster than the PS4 in Japan.

PS4 software sorted by Japanese sales
Switch software sorted by Japanese sales

Nintendo alone published more big hits in two years than Sony and all of their third party partners combined published through five years. Portability of the console helps, but it would be worthless without the games. It isn't as simple as saying that a Sony console would sell like a Nintendo console if the Sony console were portable, because at the end of the day it's the games that matter more than anything else.

Yes sure Rol, Playstation doesn't have good games, the rest of the world buy the consoles for the giggles.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

NathanSSSS said:
Shiken said:

Considering that it does exactly what it is supposed to do, allow me to continue the same games on the go that I play at home without the need to double dip or use multiple saves for multiple devices, it is not overrated at all really.  Between my downtime at work or killing time on long trips, it is nice to be able to double my play time without the need to try and play different games and jump back and forth.  It is the perfect device for the busy adult actually, which is why the ads target adults to begin with.

This is why I even buy all 3rd party games on Switch over my PS4 Pro.  I gain so much more from it in the end.

Glad u find it helpful for the portability the switch brought to u, but to me, whenever I'm outside on the go, I basically never touch any game things, I'd rather talk with my friends, or focus on things around me, things were totally different when I was a child though, the time I took my PSP or NDS everywhere I went are long gone. For me now, time on gaming only happens in my bedroom or living room where I can comfortably sit on the couch to relax from a full day study or work while enjoying the game on big screen, in that case, switch just seems not too impressive to me since I actually barely use it in handheld mode, the reason for me to buy a switch is simply Zelda and Pokemon or other N first party games, third party games for me are always going to PS4 pro, one X or even PC, bcz no matter on graphics or performance, those are all superior than switch making way better experience for gaming.

So what you are saying is that unless something fits YOUR needs and is tailor made for YOU personally, it is overrated and deserves to have its sales slowed?

Like damn everyone else's needs or desires, as your opinion is the only one that matters I guess.  😉



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Even though i agree portability is a huge factor. Japan also prefers nintendo games heavily compared to any other developer.