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Shiken said:
NathanSSSS said:

Glad u find it helpful for the portability the switch brought to u, but to me, whenever I'm outside on the go, I basically never touch any game things, I'd rather talk with my friends, or focus on things around me, things were totally different when I was a child though, the time I took my PSP or NDS everywhere I went are long gone. For me now, time on gaming only happens in my bedroom or living room where I can comfortably sit on the couch to relax from a full day study or work while enjoying the game on big screen, in that case, switch just seems not too impressive to me since I actually barely use it in handheld mode, the reason for me to buy a switch is simply Zelda and Pokemon or other N first party games, third party games for me are always going to PS4 pro, one X or even PC, bcz no matter on graphics or performance, those are all superior than switch making way better experience for gaming.

So what you are saying is that unless something fits YOUR needs and is tailor made for YOU personally, it is overrated and deserves to have its sales slowed?

Like damn everyone else's needs or desires, as your opinion is the only one that matters I guess.  😉

How many time I  have to say that, it is just all my opinion, it's always personal, take it or not, your freedom, it's okay u dont agree with me, about the correctness of my saying, only time will tell the truth.



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DonFerrari said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Well, that might be right for you, but in Japan, you would be in the minority.

For instance, you need to add PS3, 360, PS4. XBO and Wii just to get past the 3DS. Handheld gaming trumps console gaming there.

Also, without compromise on power? Then what do you do with a console? If you want no compromise, get a PC!

So considering PS3, X360, PS4, Wii and X1 have great games and all else Switch have but not portability then you are basically disproving the OP when he tries to prove that portability isn't the major important point for the high sales of Switch in Japan right?

My point to Nathan wasn't about portability, but about power and the fact that he dismissed the Switch for the PS4 - while talking about Japan sales.

But I guess you're right, it's portable while all the other don't.

It doesn't strictly need to be portable, but that certainly helps on the Japanese market these days.



Congrats Nintendo, keep up the good work.



It is a solid device. Switch deserves all the success.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
DonFerrari said:

So considering PS3, X360, PS4, Wii and X1 have great games and all else Switch have but not portability then you are basically disproving the OP when he tries to prove that portability isn't the major important point for the high sales of Switch in Japan right?

My point to Nathan wasn't about portability, but about power and the fact that he dismissed the Switch for the PS4 - while talking about Japan sales.

But I guess you're right, it's portable while all the other don't.

It doesn't strictly need to be portable, but that certainly helps on the Japanese market these days.

About the argument of power, did y'all ever thought about those first party Nintendo games running on a more powerful console can make better experience? Just like Xenoblade chronicles 2, it would be an excellent RPG if I can play it on just standard 1080p instead of 720p at top even when docked, u know what? even 4K is already almost half mainstream now, how can u put up with a game running at 720p/unstable 30FPS on a 300 bucks console? not even to mention the u know how ugly it is on handheld mode. For a lot of third party games, I don't usually bother complaining that, but are y'all just satisfied? didn't ever want anything better? For me, it should've been better if not those compromises. All above I said is just part of fact and part of my personal complaint, I DO NOT downplay anything about switch, it is because I like the system, I hope it can do better as simply a gamer. And Bofferbrauder, if you think I should go with PC if I don't like compromise, then I'll tell you, PC don't give me GOW, HZD then I bought PS4 pro, PC don't give me RDR2 in 4K then I bought one X, if I wanna play games at ultra setting, PC turned on, u want no compromise? just one is never OK, that's why I hope every one can do their best.



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NathanSSSS said:
Shiken said:

So what you are saying is that unless something fits YOUR needs and is tailor made for YOU personally, it is overrated and deserves to have its sales slowed?

Like damn everyone else's needs or desires, as your opinion is the only one that matters I guess.  😉

How many time I  have to say that, it is just all my opinion, it's always personal, take it or not, your freedom, it's okay u dont agree with me, about the correctness of my saying, only time will tell the truth.

The problem is not your opinion, you do not have to like the Switch if you do not like it.  It is when you try to use your opinion to suggest "any product is a threat to Switch" just because you feel like it is overrated based on your needs alone that is the problem.  It kills any credibility to your claims that you may or may not have had and makes it hard for people to take you seriously.

You did not come in here to say, "congrats to the Switch, even though I personally feel it is overrated."  You came in here with the intent of downplaying sales and stirring the pot, without any data or facts to back it up.



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NathanSSSS said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

My point to Nathan wasn't about portability, but about power and the fact that he dismissed the Switch for the PS4 - while talking about Japan sales.

But I guess you're right, it's portable while all the other don't.

It doesn't strictly need to be portable, but that certainly helps on the Japanese market these days.

About the argument of power, did y'all ever thought about those first party Nintendo games running on a more powerful console can make better experience? Just like Xenoblade chronicles 2, it would be an excellent RPG if I can play it on just standard 1080p instead of 720p at top even when docked, u know what? even 4K is already almost half mainstream now, how can u put up with a game running at 720p/unstable 30FPS on a 300 bucks console? not even to mention the u know how ugly it is on handheld mode. For a lot of third party games, I don't usually bother complaining that, but are y'all just satisfied? didn't ever want anything better? For me, it should've been better if not those compromises. All above I said is just part of fact and part of my personal complaint, I DO NOT downplay anything about switch, it is because I like the system, I hope it can do better as simply a gamer. And Bofferbrauder, if you think I should go with PC if I don't like compromise, then I'll tell you, PC don't give me GOW, HZD then I bought PS4 pro, PC don't give me RDR2 in 4K then I bought one X, if I wanna play games at ultra setting, PC turned on, u want no compromise? just one is never OK, that's why I hope every one can do their best.

@bolded: That's not how it works. Just look at all those ports of Nintendo games to PC. Their graphics may look objectively much better, but they lack the soul of Nintendo games, which goes more about art style and design rather then pure graphical horsepower. The result: an timeless design.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 could have used a bit more bandwidth - because in it's case, the limitation is all on the bandwidth. Stronger hardware wouldn't have done anything to alleviate this, the hardware is starved on the bandwidth.



NathanSSSS said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

My point to Nathan wasn't about portability, but about power and the fact that he dismissed the Switch for the PS4 - while talking about Japan sales.

But I guess you're right, it's portable while all the other don't.

It doesn't strictly need to be portable, but that certainly helps on the Japanese market these days.

About the argument of power, did y'all ever thought about those first party Nintendo games running on a more powerful console can make better experience? Just like Xenoblade chronicles 2, it would be an excellent RPG if I can play it on just standard 1080p instead of 720p at top even when docked, u know what? even 4K is already almost half mainstream now, how can u put up with a game running at 720p/unstable 30FPS on a 300 bucks console? not even to mention the u know how ugly it is on handheld mode. For a lot of third party games, I don't usually bother complaining that, but are y'all just satisfied? didn't ever want anything better? For me, it should've been better if not those compromises. All above I said is just part of fact and part of my personal complaint, I DO NOT downplay anything about switch, it is because I like the system, I hope it can do better as simply a gamer. And Bofferbrauder, if you think I should go with PC if I don't like compromise, then I'll tell you, PC don't give me GOW, HZD then I bought PS4 pro, PC don't give me RDR2 in 4K then I bought one X, if I wanna play games at ultra setting, PC turned on, u want no compromise? just one is never OK, that's why I hope every one can do their best.

You have answerd your question yourself, if you are fine with outdated PS4 hardware why can someone not be satisfied with the Switch's hardware? In the mainstream market   Price>Gameplay>>>Graphics is important for getting a console. It is an old tradition that the succes of a Nintendo console gets downplayed.  The Wii was only succesfull because of it's price so could not be compared to the PS3.  The switch has some incredibile exclusive software it should not be a surprise.






Amazing sales and this is even before an actual price cut or hardware revision. The vanilla switch outsold both the PS4 slim and pro models, kudos to Nintendo!