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Switch overtakes total PS4 sales in Japan, in less than half the time

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DonFerrari said:
Jranation said:

I dont get your question. Are you trying to say that Portability is NOT one of the reasons why the Switch is selling in Japan? 

It is the main big reason. Basically the opposite of what the OP is trying to defend.

Yeah I sort of agree. In Japan I would say 70% Portability 30% Games. While in the US it would be the opposite and leaning more to the Games side.



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DonFerrari said:
RolStoppable said:

In the previous post you were talking about Japan. Now you don't want to talk about Japan anymore.

EDIT: A couple of links for the people who are interested in learning why Switch has sold so much faster than the PS4 in Japan.

PS4 software sorted by Japanese sales
Switch software sorted by Japanese sales

Nintendo alone published more big hits in two years than Sony and all of their third party partners combined published through five years. Portability of the console helps, but it would be worthless without the games. It isn't as simple as saying that a Sony console would sell like a Nintendo console if the Sony console were portable, because at the end of the day it's the games that matter more than anything else.

Yes sure Rol, Playstation doesn't have good games, the rest of the world buy the consoles for the giggles.

That's not what I said. If you deny the presented data, then the problem lies with you.

Once again you deflect to worldwide sales. If you are unable to discuss the topic at hand, you should consider to leave the thread. Your dismissal of the numbers that were compiled by this website as well as your repeated misrepresentations of curl-6's posts aren't good form.



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Let me get this straight. Japan likes Nintendo games and they like portability. Yet some of you are using both or one of those factors, in a negative connotation, as for the reason why Switch so quickly outsold PS4.

Ok, and? You are correct. And? Why exactly is that a negative aspect?



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RolStoppable said:
DonFerrari said:

The week SW of PS4 doesn't seem to have stopped PS4 to reach 100M

In the previous post you were talking about Japan. Now you don't want to talk about Japan anymore.

EDIT: A couple of links for the people who are interested in learning why Switch has sold so much faster than the PS4 in Japan.

PS4 software sorted by Japanese sales
Switch software sorted by Japanese sales

Nintendo alone published more big hits in two years than Sony and all of their third party partners combined published through five years. Portability of the console helps, but it would be worthless without the games. It isn't as simple as saying that a Sony console would sell like a Nintendo console if the Sony console were portable, because at the end of the day it's the games that matter more than anything else.

Wheres kingdom hearts 3 on the ps4 list? That ps4 list is just wrong. It was confirmed mhw sold over 3m but that list says 2.1m. And dont you think ps4 games would sell much better if ps4 was portable. Portability is the biggest reason why the switch is selling faster than the ps4 in japan



Pinkie_pie said:

Wheres kingdom hearts 3 on the ps4 list? That ps4 list is just wrong. It was confirmed mhw sold over 3m but that list says 2.1m. And dont you think ps4 games would sell much better if ps4 was portable. Portability is the biggest reason why the switch is selling faster than the ps4 in japan

VGC stopped software tracking at the end of 2018, so 2019 releases are missing as well as continued sales of games that were released before the end of 2018. That applies to both consoles, just like the absence of the inclusion of digital sales.

If the PS4 was portable, it wouldn't be the PS4 anymore. That would come with consequences for the games developed for it (games not being made for it at all or only in heavily gimped fashion), so this "what if" scenario doesn't lead to a clearcut answer. Since Sony is reliant on AAA third party software and a portable PS4 in 2013 would have been less powerful than the Wii U, chances are that this hypothetical PS4 would have sold worse than the actual PS4.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

Edited. I really shouldn't post threads before my morning coffee, I am a zombie before I partake of the bean.

At a lot of the places where this has been posted the excuse of "of course it did, it's a portable" has been bandied about a lot, but I feel this is an oversimplification. After all, Vita being portable didn't stop the PS4 outselling it in Japan.

Yes let's compare the system that did 15M versus 100M globally because of reasons.

Do you really think if Switch was a full blown console it would have sold at over double the speed?

One could argue that the Switch is treated like a console. Nintendo themselves advertised the Switch as a home console first. Heck, consumers are awaiting games like Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, and Pokemon because they are getting the home console treatment (i.e., HD graphics, bigger scope/scale, etc.).

Plus, the pricing leans more towards home console than handheld. The big Nintendo games and most of the third party ports are priced at $60 and the Switch is priced at $300. The Wii sold like gangbusters at its launch price of $250. Granted both consoles are completely different in technological structure and power.



Shiken said:
NathanSSSS said:

Glad u find it helpful for the portability the switch brought to u, but to me, whenever I'm outside on the go, I basically never touch any game things, I'd rather talk with my friends, or focus on things around me, things were totally different when I was a child though, the time I took my PSP or NDS everywhere I went are long gone. For me now, time on gaming only happens in my bedroom or living room where I can comfortably sit on the couch to relax from a full day study or work while enjoying the game on big screen, in that case, switch just seems not too impressive to me since I actually barely use it in handheld mode, the reason for me to buy a switch is simply Zelda and Pokemon or other N first party games, third party games for me are always going to PS4 pro, one X or even PC, bcz no matter on graphics or performance, those are all superior than switch making way better experience for gaming.

So what you are saying is that unless something fits YOUR needs and is tailor made for YOU personally, it is overrated and deserves to have its sales slowed?

Like damn everyone else's needs or desires, as your opinion is the only one that matters I guess.  😉

How many time I  have to say that, it is just all my opinion, it's always personal, take it or not, your freedom, it's okay u dont agree with me, about the correctness of my saying, only time will tell the truth.



DonFerrari said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Well, that might be right for you, but in Japan, you would be in the minority.

For instance, you need to add PS3, 360, PS4. XBO and Wii just to get past the 3DS. Handheld gaming trumps console gaming there.

Also, without compromise on power? Then what do you do with a console? If you want no compromise, get a PC!

So considering PS3, X360, PS4, Wii and X1 have great games and all else Switch have but not portability then you are basically disproving the OP when he tries to prove that portability isn't the major important point for the high sales of Switch in Japan right?

My point to Nathan wasn't about portability, but about power and the fact that he dismissed the Switch for the PS4 - while talking about Japan sales.

But I guess you're right, it's portable while all the other don't.

It doesn't strictly need to be portable, but that certainly helps on the Japanese market these days.



Congrats Nintendo, keep up the good work.



It is a solid device. Switch deserves all the success.