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FF7Remake + Sony Exclusivity + Next Gen PS5 + Episodic Nature + Game Progress

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This is something that I have been thinking about concerning the episodic approach this game will have and the fact that the next PlayStation is in the next corner.

How do you expect, think that Square will approach the release of these episodes or think would be ok for Square to address game progress (leveling up, inventory and collection of items) when these episodes are likely to jump to PS5?

A) Do you think all the episodes release both in PS4 and PS5?

B) Could this "episodes" work more as stand alone games that, once you finish them, all gained levels and inventory are gone and you start in episode 2 (for example) on level 1 all over again? How do you like that idea?

C) Maybe there are other examples out there of episodic games you think would be the best way to approach and continue progress between episodes? What would be the best approach?

D) Could there be a way to "load" your saved game from episode 1 to episode 2?

E) What is the best way for Square to address game progress between episodes? Would you care if progress is lost between episodes?

F) Will I lose all my 1/35 Soldiers after I finish an episode?

Discuss.



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That's why bc is great, other wise you get one episode on PS4 that you have to rebuy or in best case upgrade for a small amount to play it on PS5. I worry about => level caps in an episode and in general micro transactions. but I kind of hope they also do loyal fans upgrades. You played FFXV you get this weapon/skin..You played FFVII, you get this, Dragon quest XI/KHIII etc...






AbbathTheGrim said:

A) Do you think all the episodes release both in PS4 and PS5?

B) Could this "episodes" work more as stand alone games that, once you finish them, all gained levels and inventory are gone and you start in episode 2 (for example) on level 1 all over again? How do you like that idea?

C) Maybe there are other examples out there of episodic games you think would be the best way to approach and continue progress between episodes? What would be the best approach?

D) Could there be a way to "load" your saved game from episode 1 to episode 2?

E) What is the best way for Square to address game progress between episodes? Would you care if progress is lost between episodes?

F) Will I lose all my 1/35 Soldiers after I finish an episode?

Discuss.

A)  Yes, I think the PS4 will get the future releases of FF7R.  

B) No, I assume your progress will continue onto the next episode in the series. It will probably be like a expansion, that requires the other parts before you can play them.

C) Most other games, where theres continue on, your left with a option to play the game as a standalone.... but those arnt called "episodic" games.

D) There will without a doubt be such a thing, Im assumeing it ll continue where you left off from, and make use of save data from earlier episode.

E) Yes I'd care, if each was a stand alone, and progess was just lost between episodes. That would suck.

F) nope (if their even still in the game)



It will probably have an upload/download from "cloud" server option if going from one PS platform to another for saves. SE did that with FFX/X2. Falcom even just did that with Trails of Cold Steel series on PS4. So I have no worries of losing save data.



AbbathTheGrim said:

A) Do you think all the episodes release both in PS4 and PS5?

B) Could this "episodes" work more as stand alone games that, once you finish them, all gained levels and inventory are gone and you start in episode 2 (for example) on level 1 all over again? How do you like that idea?

C) Maybe there are other examples out there of episodic games you think would be the best way to approach and continue progress between episodes? What would be the best approach?

D) Could there be a way to "load" your saved game from episode 1 to episode 2?

E) What is the best way for Square to address game progress between episodes? Would you care if progress is lost between episodes?

F) Will I lose all my 1/35 Soldiers after I finish an episode?

A) They'd have to all be on PS4 at least. And since PS5 is backwards compatible, they'll all be on both.

B) Square used the term "multi-game series" btw. It was an english mistranslation of their statement that changed it to "Episodic".

In the most recent example of such a FF game from Square, which is the three Final Fantasiu XIII games, progress was reset between each game.
However, Final Fantasy 7 is one single story, so I expect much of the progress to carry over between games.

C) Yes, in fact Cyberconnect 2, who were hired to work on FF7R, but have since been let go, had a system like that in their .hack games.
There would be a level cap for each game. For example lvl 30 in the first game. 60 in the second game, and 99 in the third game. You kept all your items, skills, quest progress, etc.

I hope Square take an approach like this with FF7.

D) At the very least, you'd expect there to be one for some minor bonus.

E) I liked the approach in the .hack GU games. It felt like a mix of a somewhat fresh start with each new game, along with some progress you had made before, so it didn't feel like you were starting over from scratch completely.



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The more I think about the idea of FF7 being split up into 3 parts the more I laugh at how much they have to do. What I mean is they have to get the entire gameplay and everything set by game 1, and they can't change it for the other games, it's done. This isn't a ME series type of thing where saves are copied over and interactions change based on choices by gameplay has been tweaked and improved, it's not even FF13 where they claim it's 1 story but each game has different mechanics, gameplay and exploration and are in essence 3 completely separate games. It's 1 game you will be charged £150 for. A game save will have to carry on over games, you my even still have to swap discs like we did on PS1. They also have to account for people maybe buying just Part 2 or Part 3 on their own, so there needs to be a 'starting' level for each entry.

They in reality have made themselves more work because they are splitting it up.

F) No, that one is probably one of the simplest but you know what they will do? Forget about them. You think some of the stuff in the original will survive? Some of the awesome music? Little nods? little quirks? It's going to be some weird humourless emo crap. You'll see, YOU'LL ALL SEE!!!



Hmm, pie.

I don't like episode games option.

But yes the option to have either carry on or reset can be made acceptable... you have the caps for each episode and when you start an episode you will start at the cap level of the previous episode and carry on whatever you had on you.

And all episodes should be on PS4 or PS5 (if one releases in PS4 all other should as well). I got so damn pissed when I finished Souls Reaver after a lot of hours and instead of an ending I just got a "continue in PS2" or something like that, and in Brazil I haven't heard of PS2 even being near release for quite some years.



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Imho, they will make each episode to be like 1 disc of the OG FFVII and add some extras to give some meet to the episodes, expanded lore and extra quests for sure.
It will work just like the OG FF7, you will need ep.1, or at least save from ep.1, to play 2 and 3 just.
Also they will be able to add new mechanics on each episode, but probably not exclude already existing ones for consistency.

Also, i don't think all episodes will be on PS4. Part 1 will be ps4/5 ( one single version for both consoles), than the other parts gonna be ps5 only ( maybe part 2 will be on ps4), i mean, just think about this, part 1 is something set for 2020-2021 and the other parts are going to take some time, i can see part 3 2025, or even 2027, so yeah, no ps4 version.

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Manlytears said:

Imho, they will make each episode to be like 1 disc of the OG FFVII and add some extras to give some meet to the episodes, expanded lore and extra quests for sure.

Dude, you are extremely optimistic. I am fearing that they will instead chop off and summarize stuff out of the original game.



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AbbathTheGrim said:

A) Do you think all the episodes release both in PS4 and PS5?

B) Could this "episodes" work more as stand alone games that, once you finish them, all gained levels and inventory are gone and you start in episode 2 (for example) on level 1 all over again? How do you like that idea?

C) Maybe there are other examples out there of episodic games you think would be the best way to approach and continue progress between episodes? What would be the best approach?

D) Could there be a way to "load" your saved game from episode 1 to episode 2?

E) What is the best way for Square to address game progress between episodes? Would you care if progress is lost between episodes?

F) Will I lose all my 1/35 Soldiers after I finish an episode?

Discuss.

A) each episode will run on the same engine; so they will all hit both.

B) there will be level caps.

C) Nothing, because it is not episodic. It will be a trilogy like FF13.

D) yes? Not sure I understand

E) Why would progress be lost? 

F) no