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TranceformerFX said:
twintail said:

failing to see the problem with the flashback

Because at that point the game's stage hasn't even been set yet, unveiling Sephiroth that soon without even knowing what kind of threat he poses is bad writing and counter intuitive to first establishing why he's even having those flashbacka to begin with.

That's why.

cant argue with that though i dont agree either.

execution will be important though so yeah it could work badly

EDIT: it might just be a red herring for the trailer anyways so I wouldnt worry too much about it



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thismeintiel said:
deskpro2k3 said:
It just hit me.. Gold Saucer, in 4K

Yes, sir.  I hope we get improved versions of all the arcade games.  Just add a little more depth to them.  More tricks for the bike/snowboarding games.  Make the paper/rock/scissors fighting game an actual fighting game with Cloud fighting those same few enemy fighters.  The sub and coaster games could probably remain the same, as just the improved graphics are good enough for them. It would be kinda cool to have VR support for those games and the Chocobo racing, though, that may be asking for too much.

Add an enhanced version of Ehrgeiz.

And for the bike game, they already developed a game for that.


I hope they put it in FF7 Remake.

TranceformerFX said:
twintail said:

failing to see the problem with the flashback

Because at that point the game's stage hasn't even been set yet, unveiling Sephiroth that soon without even knowing what kind of threat he poses is bad writing and counter intuitive to first establishing why he's even having those flashbacka to begin with.

That's why.

That soon? We don't know when that flashback occured.
It certainly didn't look like it was in the same room as the scene that came before it.


This appears to be on some street next to a concrete pillar. And it's unclear if this is where Cloud has the flashback, or if this is where the flashback itself took place.
Some details of Cloud's encounters with Sephiroth from Before Crisis and Crisis Core should be expected in this game.
Can also be:

Spoiler!
Zack's memories.

Although keep in mind that this game is said to have extensive new content taking place in Midgar, that will flesh out characters like Biggs, Wedge, and Jesse, and let you visit all the different Sectors. So it would not necessarily be out of place to reveal a little bit more about Sephiroth at that point in the game, if we're going to spend that much more time in it.

Last edited by Hiku - on 09 May 2019

Jpcc86 said:
FF7R and the MH DLC look awesome.
Medievil is fine. Looking forward to it.
I wasnt paying attention to much else.
Endgame was cool.
This last season of GOT kinda sucks.
Super Mario 64 is overrated.



Hiku said:
thismeintiel said:

Yes, sir.  I hope we get improved versions of all the arcade games.  Just add a little more depth to them.  More tricks for the bike/snowboarding games.  Make the paper/rock/scissors fighting game an actual fighting game with Cloud fighting those same few enemy fighters.  The sub and coaster games could probably remain the same, as just the improved graphics are good enough for them. It would be kinda cool to have VR support for those games and the Chocobo racing, though, that may be asking for too much.

Add an enhanced version of Ehrgeiz.

And for the bike game, they already developed a game for that.


I hope they put it in FF7 Remake.

TranceformerFX said:

Because at that point the game's stage hasn't even been set yet, unveiling Sephiroth that soon without even knowing what kind of threat he poses is bad writing and counter intuitive to first establishing why he's even having those flashbacka to begin with.

That's why.

That soon? We don't know when that flashback occured.
It certainly didn't look like it was in the same room as the scene that came before it.


This appears to be on some street next to a concrete pillar. And it's unclear if this is where Cloud has the flashback, or if this is where the flashback itself took place.
Some details of Cloud's encounters with Sephiroth from Before Crisis and Crisis Core should be expected in this game.
Can also be:

Spoiler!
Zack's memories.

Although keep in mind that this game is said to have extensive new content taking place in Midgar, that will flesh out characters like Biggs, Wedge, and Jesse, and let you visit all the different Sectors. So it would not necessarily be out of place to reveal a little bit more about Sephiroth at that point in the game, if we're going to spend that much more time in it.

Sounds good to me.  Also, that pillar looks more like the side of a building, with the bottom right portion of a window.  Could possibly be the point in the story where Cloud tells them about Nibelheim, only now it has a paved road, instead of dirt.  I could also see it being a new section of Midgar, like you said.



Hiku said:

TranceformerFX said:

Because at that point the game's stage hasn't even been set yet, unveiling Sephiroth that soon without even knowing what kind of threat he poses is bad writing and counter intuitive to first establishing why he's even having those flashbacka to begin with.

That's why.

That soon? We don't know when that flashback occured.
It certainly didn't look like it was in the same room as the scene that came before it.


This appears to be on some street next to a concrete pillar. And it's unclear if this is where Cloud has the flashback, or if this is where the flashback itself took place.
Some details of Cloud's encounters with Sephiroth from Before Crisis and Crisis Core should be expected in this game.
Can also be:

Spoiler!
Zack's memories.

Although keep in mind that this game is said to have extensive new content taking place in Midgar, that will flesh out characters like Biggs, Wedge, and Jesse, and let you visit all the different Sectors. So it would not necessarily be out of place to reveal a little bit more about Sephiroth at that point in the game, if we're going to spend that much more time in it.

You'ren looking at the point I'm trying to make. The point is that Sephiroth, for the sake of setting of the stage and putting importance of Sephiroth's/Clouds relationship into context - shouldn't be appearing in the game so soon regardless if it's the same scene or not. Sephiroth doesn't appear until you're a quarter through the game on the Junon Boat.

Why?

Because at that time, the stage had been set by the discovery of headless Jenova at Shinra HQ and Sephiroth's sword moments later. Which gave leeway to the importance of Clouds memory when they fill in the rest of the party (and the gamer) why Sephiroth being STILL alive is a big deal - despite Tifa and Cloud believing he had died years earlier.

THAT'S the point I'm trying to make...



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That animal game with the sugar glider looked very interesting, definitely something I'll be keeping an eye on! MediEvil releasing at Halloween is just perfect for it, and I'm SO FUCKING EXCITED!

... Final Fantasy VII Remake though; Oh damn! I wonder if we'll get a release date in June, but seeing more of it has just increased my hype even more, can't fucking wait!



TranceformerFX said:
Hiku said:

That soon? We don't know when that flashback occured.
It certainly didn't look like it was in the same room as the scene that came before it.


This appears to be on some street next to a concrete pillar. And it's unclear if this is where Cloud has the flashback, or if this is where the flashback itself took place.
Some details of Cloud's encounters with Sephiroth from Before Crisis and Crisis Core should be expected in this game.
Can also be:

Spoiler!
Zack's memories.

Although keep in mind that this game is said to have extensive new content taking place in Midgar, that will flesh out characters like Biggs, Wedge, and Jesse, and let you visit all the different Sectors. So it would not necessarily be out of place to reveal a little bit more about Sephiroth at that point in the game, if we're going to spend that much more time in it.

You'ren looking at the point I'm trying to make. The point is that Sephiroth, for the sake of setting of the stage and putting importance of Sephiroth's/Clouds relationship into context - shouldn't be appearing in the game so soon regardless if it's the same scene or not. Sephiroth doesn't appear until you're a quarter through the game on the Junon Boat.

Why?

Because at that time, the stage had been set by the discovery of headless Jenova at Shinra HQ and Sephiroth's sword moments later. Which gave leeway to the importance of Clouds memory when they fill in the rest of the party (and the gamer) why Sephiroth being STILL alive is a big deal - despite Tifa and Cloud believing he had died years earlier.

THAT'S the point I'm trying to make...

Sephiroth doesn't appear that late in the game. His first appearance is in a flashback while Cloud tells the story of Nibelheim. This happens in the first town outside of Midgar, Kalm.



thismeintiel said:
TranceformerFX said:

You'ren looking at the point I'm trying to make. The point is that Sephiroth, for the sake of setting of the stage and putting importance of Sephiroth's/Clouds relationship into context - shouldn't be appearing in the game so soon regardless if it's the same scene or not. Sephiroth doesn't appear until you're a quarter through the game on the Junon Boat.

Why?

Because at that time, the stage had been set by the discovery of headless Jenova at Shinra HQ and Sephiroth's sword moments later. Which gave leeway to the importance of Clouds memory when they fill in the rest of the party (and the gamer) why Sephiroth being STILL alive is a big deal - despite Tifa and Cloud believing he had died years earlier.

THAT'S the point I'm trying to make...

Sephiroth doesn't appear that late in the game. His first appearance is in a flashback while Cloud tells the story of Nibelheim. This happens in the first town outside of Midgar, Kalm.

Right... I already clarified that much in the bolded characters. But let me make this SUPER specific so we don't all get hung up on small details.

What I meant to say, is that you don't meet Sephiroth in the flesh (so to speak) until the Junon Boat. I didn't use Kalm as an example because it's a flashback. I'm aware that the teaser trailer is insinuating it's also a flashback, but inserting a flashback at some point in Midgar is shitty writing - and does a piss poor job of setting the stage with Sephiroth as a character/villain.



TranceformerFX said:
thismeintiel said:

Sephiroth doesn't appear that late in the game. His first appearance is in a flashback while Cloud tells the story of Nibelheim. This happens in the first town outside of Midgar, Kalm.

Right... I already clarified that much in the bolded characters. But let me make this SUPER specific so we don't all get hung up on small details.

What I meant to say, is that you don't meet Sephiroth in the flesh (so to speak) until the Junon Boat. I didn't use Kalm as an example because it's a flashback. I'm aware that the teaser trailer is insinuating it's also a flashback, but inserting a flashback at some point in Midgar is shitty writing - and does a piss poor job of setting the stage with Sephiroth as a character/villain.

Well, we can't say it's shitty writing until we actually see it. And for all we know, this is the flashback from Kalm.



thismeintiel said:
TranceformerFX said:

Right... I already clarified that much in the bolded characters. But let me make this SUPER specific so we don't all get hung up on small details.

What I meant to say, is that you don't meet Sephiroth in the flesh (so to speak) until the Junon Boat. I didn't use Kalm as an example because it's a flashback. I'm aware that the teaser trailer is insinuating it's also a flashback, but inserting a flashback at some point in Midgar is shitty writing - and does a piss poor job of setting the stage with Sephiroth as a character/villain.

Well, we can't say it's shitty writing until we actually see it. And for all we know, this is the flashback from Kalm.

You could be correct, and that would be about in line with what we'll get in the first episode of FF7R.