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Can Avengers: Endgame take the #1 spot beating Avatar? ...It just did !!!!

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Will Avengers:Endgame beat Avatar?

Yes 68 80.00%
 
No 17 20.00%
 
Total:85

To be fair, using the facts...there are 5 films to break $2B, and 40 films to break $1B. (counting Far From Home)

Even if the Avatar sequels only did half of their original box office take, that's still over $1B folks. Say it slowly with me here...over. one. billion. dollars.

Top 40 Club. Congrats to Everyone!! Much respects all around.



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pikashoe said:
flashfire926 said:

Of course it's not gonna beat Gone with the Wind. In those days going to the theatre was the only singleway to watch to the movie. 

No Blu-ray, DVD, pirating, streaming. A lot of my cousins watched Endgame from a chinese cammed version of the movie mere days after release. That aint possible in 1977 with Star Wars, let alone Gone With the Wind.

Even in the 10 years since avatar released things have changed so much. Piracy is much bigger now, Netflix, Amazon and other streaming sites didn't exist, tv is providing more cinematic experiences than ever, social media wasn't big yet. It is just a completely different landscape than it was back then.

Also (and maybe it's just me) but it seems like movies go from theater to TVstreaming service much quicker than they used to. I could see a lot of people choosing to just wait. 



method114 said:
pikashoe said:

Even in the 10 years since avatar released things have changed so much. Piracy is much bigger now, Netflix, Amazon and other streaming sites didn't exist, tv is providing more cinematic experiences than ever, social media wasn't big yet. It is just a completely different landscape than it was back then.

Also (and maybe it's just me) but it seems like movies go from theater to TVstreaming service much quicker than they used to. I could see a lot of people choosing to just wait. 

Endgame is out on home media in just 3 weeks.



mZuzek said:
method114 said:

Also (and maybe it's just me) but it seems like movies go from theater to TVstreaming service much quicker than they used to. I could see a lot of people choosing to just wait. 

Endgame is out on home media in just 3 weeks.

Wow that's unbelievable. I knew it seemed quicker but that is way way faster than even I thought it was. I had to google this because honestly I just thought you misread something or heard a rumor. 



method114 said:
mZuzek said:

Endgame is out on home media in just 3 weeks.

Wow that's unbelievable. I knew it seemed quicker but that is way way faster than even I thought it was. I had to google this because honestly I just thought you misread something or heard a rumor. 

And that's actually a longer time than most movies, because of how successful it was. For reference, Detective Pikachu, which released 2 weeks after Endgame, is coming out on home media tomorrow. The general rule nowadays seems to be 3 months - Endgame is getting almost 4.



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How exchange rates affected the gross:



"A few years back in Nigeria, 1$ = 150 naira. Now in 2019, 1$ is about 360 naira.

The average ticket price is about 600 (and say 500 a few years ago) naira.

100 people buying tickets to movie A would be say 6000 naira in 2019 and 5000 naira a while back.

In 2019, that would be about $16

A few years ago and it would be $31

The exact same number of people bought tickets at similar local prices but the return in dollars is abysmal in comparison. 2x less.

That's what this whole chart is about. Exchange rates are utter shit compared to the 09 - 14. Avatar grossed 2.7b in 2009 but if it sold the same amount of tickets and was released in 2019, it would land at about 2.1 - 2.3b"

Someone compiled this here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/chlfbm/other_ers_impact_on_endgames_gross_through_out/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share



the-pi-guy said:

How exchange rates affected the gross:



"A few years back in Nigeria, 1$ = 150 naira. Now in 2019, 1$ is about 360 naira.

The average ticket price is about 600 (and say 500 a few years ago) naira.

100 people buying tickets to movie A would be say 6000 naira in 2019 and 5000 naira a while back.

In 2019, that would be about $16

A few years ago and it would be $31

The exact same number of people bought tickets at similar local prices but the return in dollars is abysmal in comparison. 2x less.

That's what this whole chart is about. Exchange rates are utter shit compared to the 09 - 14. Avatar grossed 2.7b in 2009 but if it sold the same amount of tickets and was released in 2019, it would land at about 2.1 - 2.3b"

Someone compiled this here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/chlfbm/other_ers_impact_on_endgames_gross_through_out/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Thank you!!!! 



In my mind there are only two charts that matter:

1) Worldwide, not adjusted for inflation

2) Domestic, adjusted for inflation

Currently, the first chart has Endgame at #1 and Avatar at #2 (though they are extremely close).  This chart is a nice, objective, worldwide standard although it has the disadvantage of being weighted more toward recent movies.

The second chart has Avatar at #15 and Endgame at #16 while the top two spots are Gone With the Wind and Star Wars (Episode 4), respectively.  The chart is nice in that it gives a good ranking for how a movie has done in the grand all-time scheme of things.  It has to be domestic (US and Canada) though because A) if you go back far enough the movies didn't have much of a worldwide release, and B) every country has different rates of inflation and exchange rates.  (I believe this is what the-pi-guy was talking about a couple of posts ago.)  Because of these two factors, the only objective way to rank a movie for all time is to adjust for inflation but look at domestic only.

So, those are really the only two logical charts.  Either you take one that is modern and worldwide or you take one that is domestic only but goes back to the beginning.  So either Endgame is the top movie of all time or Gone With the Wind is.  Avatar no longer has this crown any way you slice it.



Update bump: EndGame is currently sitting at $ 2.794 B, as of today, 8/6/19. Results were for up to 8/4/19. This is one-week before the Blu-Ray release. The gap is about to cross $ 5 M.



It turns out more people saw Endgame than Avatar as well due to Avatar having 85% 3D admission and Endgame only 50%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxmN2Ga1p34



29/08/14:

PS4 will sell 25 million units before 31st of March!

Edit: I didn't state what year! HAHA, so I'm still right in some sense