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Can Avengers: Endgame take the #1 spot beating Avatar? ...It just did !!!!

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Will Avengers:Endgame beat Avatar?

Yes 68 80.00%
 
No 17 20.00%
 
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V-r0cK said:
thismeintiel said:

To be fair to Avengers, Avatar saw a rerelease, too. Then, again, to be fair to Avatar, Avengers not only has a much larger market to sell to, they also have a decade's worth of inflation on their side.

As well with this Avengers "rerelease" (it never left theater in my city so i never considered/felt it was a rerelease) it was a combined span of like 3 months?  Whereas Avatar has been in theatres for almost a year?

People say 'wait til Avatar gets a rerelease before the sequel', but my question is will Disney allow that? 1) First Avatar is tainted by Fox whereas Disney having Avengers Endgame to remain the top spot under their roof sounds better and 2) It's been so long that the sequel probably doesnt need people to understand the original Avatar.  Just my thoughts.

Can't really judge anything on the length of the performance since they are different beasts.  Endgame was the buildup of more than ten years worth of movies and hype for the "final" Avengers film, with everyone together for the last time.  Of course it would be more front loaded.  Avatar was a new IP that sold from word of mouth and 3D hype, so it was more of a slow burn.

Yea, I'm not too sure they will have a rerelease.  Then, again, if they think they can make a ton of cash off of it, maybe they will.  Personally, I don't see a rerelease doing much as Avatar interest has died down considerably.  Other than it being known that it made a shit ton of money, it hasn't entered into the mainstream mindscape.  No one quotes the film or parodies it, anymore.  Other than a few being able to call the alien race by name, no one remembers any characters from the film.  That's why I think James Cameron is going to be shocked if he thought Avatar sequels are his future.  I see the 2nd one only doing ~1/2 of what the 1st one did.



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And yet it will never beat Avatar's adjusted for inflation numbers. Or Titanic's, or Gone with the Wind's, Or Stars Wars Ep. IV...



thismeintiel said:

Can't really judge anything on the length of the performance since they are different beasts.  Endgame was the buildup of more than ten years worth of movies and hype for the "final" Avengers film, with everyone together for the last time.  Of course it would be more front loaded.  Avatar was a new IP that sold from word of mouth and 3D hype, so it was more of a slow burn.

Yea, I'm not too sure they will have a rerelease.  Then, again, if they think they can make a ton of cash off of it, maybe they will.  Personally, I don't see a rerelease doing much as Avatar interest has died down considerably.  Other than it being known that it made a shit ton of money, it hasn't entered into the mainstream mindscape.  No one quotes the film or parodies it, anymore.  Other than a few being able to call the alien race by name, no one remembers any characters from the film.  That's why I think James Cameron is going to be shocked if he thought Avatar sequels are his future.  I see the 2nd one only doing ~1/2 of what the 1st one did.

I'm sure with Disney now owning Avatar, James Cameron definitely has a lot more pressure to making the sequel a big hit but I wouldnt be surprised if the sequel only did half of the first (or even less) as you mentioned. 

Didn't he cast/plan to cast kids for his sequels?  Like at the rate his Avatar movies coming out those kids will age a decade in each movie lol



Does it count anymore when its been released twice?



FragilE^ said:
Does it count anymore when its been released twice?

Avatar was released twice.



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FragilE^ said:
Does it count anymore when its been released twice?

If we're not counting re-releases then avengers won awhile ago. Everyone seems to forget that avatar released an extended version later in the year. 



StriderKiwi said:
And yet it will never beat Avatar's adjusted for inflation numbers. Or Titanic's, or Gone with the Wind's, Or Stars Wars Ep. IV...

Of course it's not gonna beat Gone with the Wind. In those days going to the theatre was the only singleway to watch to the movie. 

No Blu-ray, DVD, pirating, streaming. A lot of my cousins watched Endgame from a chinese cammed version of the movie mere days after release. That aint possible in 1977 with Star Wars, let alone Gone With the Wind.



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flashfire926 said:
StriderKiwi said:
And yet it will never beat Avatar's adjusted for inflation numbers. Or Titanic's, or Gone with the Wind's, Or Stars Wars Ep. IV...

Of course it's not gonna beat Gone with the Wind. In those days going to the theatre was the only singleway to watch to the movie. 

No Blu-ray, DVD, pirating, streaming. A lot of my cousins watched Endgame from a chinese cammed version of the movie mere days after release. That aint possible in 1977 with Star Wars, let alone Gone With the Wind.

Even in the 10 years since avatar released things have changed so much. Piracy is much bigger now, Netflix, Amazon and other streaming sites didn't exist, tv is providing more cinematic experiences than ever, social media wasn't big yet. It is just a completely different landscape than it was back then.



V-r0cK said:
thismeintiel said:

To be fair to Avengers, Avatar saw a rerelease, too. Then, again, to be fair to Avatar, Avengers not only has a much larger market to sell to, they also have a decade's worth of inflation on their side.

As well with this Avengers "rerelease" (it never left theater in my city so i never considered/felt it was a rerelease) it was a combined span of like 3 months?  Whereas Avatar has been in theatres for almost a year?

People say 'wait til Avatar gets a rerelease before the sequel', but my question is will Disney allow that? 1) First Avatar is tainted by Fox whereas Disney having Avengers Endgame to remain the top spot under their roof sounds better and 2) It's been so long that the sequel probably doesnt need people to understand the original Avatar.  Just my thoughts.

This exactly.  It was still playing in almost 1,000 theaters when it added theaters back in.  That's still a single continuous release.  In the case of Avatar's Special Edition, Avatar's initial release was no longer playing in any theaters at all when the "Special Edition" released.  For some reason, people like to point to the Endgame expansion as some sort of "cheap trick" for a movie that has been in theaters for 3 months to have beaten Avatar's 8 month total gross.



StriderKiwi said:
And yet it will never beat Avatar's adjusted for inflation numbers. Or Titanic's, or Gone with the Wind's, Or Stars Wars Ep. IV...

Sure, but then again, it wasnt trying to. It'd be completely unrealistic for any film to aspire to beat Gone with the Wind's adjusted numbers.