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Will Avengers:Endgame beat Avatar?

Yes 68 80.00%
 
No 17 20.00%
 
Total:85
John2290 said:
I was so sure about this but I never considered the fact that Marvel could release another film and end the possibility. Doesn't luck like it eill pass iy now, its too much for even the repeat watchers to close the gap. I still reckon it wins in sheer audience numbers cause Avatar had crazy ridiculous ticket pricing for 3d and all that shit.

I cannot speak about the U.S. but in my country tickets are actually more expensive today than they were back then. I vividly remember paying the equivalent of $4.86 to watch Avatar in 3D back then, and just today I paid $5 to watch Far From Home in 2D.



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My assessment was right, this movie was very heavy front loaded as people wanted to avoid spoilers, especially after the way the first part ended.

Even with a re-release to try a cheap way to get the number 1 spot, it still struggled to spark a lot of interest. It is only a matter of how long are cinemas will continue to run it or fans for that matter willing to go again to try and beat Avatar



 

 

I was expecting it to beat Avatar because I am still surprised Avatar did that well. Yeah, I know it was pretty revolutionary in terms of effects, but it did not have a memorable story. It was basically just dances with wolves with an extremely well done generic paradise. I literally never hear people talk about the movie...ever. There have been few instances I've heard it discussed in media and it was precisely due to its budget or sales. End game I see everywhere. I expected it to win just because of how much it is part of pop culture and social media.



Quick search also reveals that Avatar was nominated for 9 Academy Awards, which it won 3.

EndGame had better receive just as much, if not more nominations and/or wins, or else the Academy Awards are dated and obsolete.

Another quick search also reveals Infinity War only received a single nomination, which it did not win.

Well, there goes the Oscars' credibility and viewership. Down the toilet. [I need that Star-Lord emoji salute so much]

[edit: fixed my sp error above, plus added 'so much']

Last edited by Mospeada21CA - on 08 July 2019

teamsilent13 said:
I was expecting it to beat Avatar because I am still surprised Avatar did that well. Yeah, I know it was pretty revolutionary in terms of effects, but it did not have a memorable story. It was basically just dances with wolves with an extremely well done generic paradise. I literally never hear people talk about the movie...ever. There have been few instances I've heard it discussed in media and it was precisely due to its budget or sales. End game I see everywhere. I expected it to win just because of how much it is part of pop culture and social media.

The 3D raked in the money for Avatar, however 10 years ago 3D prices were probably the same prices as a regular movie ticket (here anyway), so I doubt ticket prices alone had a sole impact of making it no 1.  I think the 3D made people go back a few times.

Australia

End Game = 58 million

Avatar = 105 million

China 

End Game = 614 million

Avatar = 200 million

I also bet, at the time Chinese probably were not going to cinemas as much due to most people being poor or ticket prices were significantly cheaper or communism prevented easy access to western movies (who knows).

The top 3 movies of all time, China's revenue

Titanic 1996 = 40 million

Avatar 2009 = 200 million

End Game 2019 = 600 million



 

 

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Mospeada21CA said:

Quick search also reveals that Avatar was nominated for 9 Academy Awards, which it won 3.

EndGame had better receive just as much, if not more nominations and/or wins, or else the Academy Awards are dated and obsolete.

Another quick search also reveals Infinity War only received a single nomination, which it did not win.

Well, there goes the Oscars' credibility and viewership. Down the toilet. [I need that Star-Lord emoji salute so much]

notsureifserious.gif

When the market is dominated by comic book adaptations and remakes of animated movies, you really expect specialized critic, or anyone who stops to think for even a minute, for that matter, to look at it and say "yes, this is it, surely this is the peak of the art of cinematography"?

On the other hand, take movies like Mad Max: Fury Road and Blade Runner 2049. Better than anything Disney has released this millenium, and they do show, much like Lord of the Rings - and Avatar, to some extent - that fantasy and science fiction can be well received by critics and win awards.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
Mospeada21CA said:

Quick search also reveals that Avatar was nominated for 9 Academy Awards, which it won 3.

EndGame had better receive just as much, if not more nominations and/or wins, or else the Academy Awards are dated and obsolete.

Another quick search also reveals Infinity War only received a single nomination, which it did not win.

Well, there goes the Oscars' credibility and viewership. Down the toilet. [I need that Star-Lord emoji salute so much]

notsureifserious.gif

When the market is dominated by comic book adaptations and remakes of animated movies, you really expect specialized critic, or anyone who stops to think for even a minute, for that matter, to look at it and say "yes, this is it, surely this is the peak of the art of cinematography"?

On the other hand, take movies like Mad Max: Fury Road and Blade Runner 2049. Better than anything Disney has released this millenium, and they do show, much like Lord of the Rings - and Avatar, to some extent - that fantasy and science fiction can be well received by critics and win awards.

You literally didn't give a single objective reason why those comic book adaptations can't win awards, other than there being many of them.



mZuzek said:
haxxiy said:

notsureifserious.gif

When the market is dominated by comic book adaptations and remakes of animated movies, you really expect specialized critic, or anyone who stops to think for even a minute, for that matter, to look at it and say "yes, this is it, surely this is the peak of the art of cinematography"?

On the other hand, take movies like Mad Max: Fury Road and Blade Runner 2049. Better than anything Disney has released this millenium, and they do show, much like Lord of the Rings - and Avatar, to some extent - that fantasy and science fiction can be well received by critics and win awards.

You literally didn't give a single objective reason why those comic book adaptations can't win awards, other than there being many of them.

I'm still bitter that Logan didn't get nominated for Best Picture, along with Hugh and Sir Patrick for Best actors.



haxxiy said:
Mospeada21CA said:

Quick search also reveals that Avatar was nominated for 9 Academy Awards, which it won 3.

EndGame had better receive just as much, if not more nominations and/or wins, or else the Academy Awards are dated and obsolete.

Another quick search also reveals Infinity War only received a single nomination, which it did not win.

Well, there goes the Oscars' credibility and viewership. Down the toilet. [I need that Star-Lord emoji salute so much]

notsureifserious.gif

When the market is dominated by comic book adaptations and remakes of animated movies, you really expect specialized critic, or anyone who stops to think for even a minute, for that matter, to look at it and say "yes, this is it, surely this is the peak of the art of cinematography"?

On the other hand, take movies like Mad Max: Fury Road and Blade Runner 2049. Better than anything Disney has released this millenium, and they do show, much like Lord of the Rings - and Avatar, to some extent - that fantasy and science fiction can be well received by critics and win awards.

I love those movies. If only they were at the top of the box office charts



chakkra said:
John2290 said:
I was so sure about this but I never considered the fact that Marvel could release another film and end the possibility. Doesn't luck like it eill pass iy now, its too much for even the repeat watchers to close the gap. I still reckon it wins in sheer audience numbers cause Avatar had crazy ridiculous ticket pricing for 3d and all that shit.

I cannot speak about the U.S. but in my country tickets are actually more expensive today than they were back then. I vividly remember paying the equivalent of $4.86 to watch Avatar in 3D back then, and just today I paid $5 to watch Far From Home in 2D.

Only $5? O.O

Here in Holland it’s like €13 or something for a single ticket.

You premise is correct though, it’s way more expensive now than when Avatar was out.