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xMetroid said:
trunkswd said:

Hardware is about to get a LOT more interesting. At least on the Switch side with the revision boosting sales and the Switch Lite right around the corner. Even from what I am seeing Gears 5 is going to help Xbox One sales a decent amount during its launch week. 

Yea obviously, i was just pointing out why it's more empty than usual during the summer since there is like really dry new info on games and the actual games coming out during that period of time aren't the most exciting usually. And with the hardware being boring during that same period the only thing i personally was interested in was the software sales. But yes, it is about to get better.

Even so you are still right. This “interesting” bit will only last for a week or two, until everything dies down again or a new standard has been set. Then it’s same old same old again.

There’s only so much times you can say;

”Congrats Switch!” or “Wow PS4 is doing so well for it’s age!”

The sales threads basically write themselves. The software threads didn’t really have this problem as something new would be released regularly and results were much less predictable. Which meant much more discussion beforehand, and more afterwards to talk about surprising results, in higher frequency.



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curl-6 said:

It's not just here, a lot of gaming forums I visit are on the decline. I'm on IGN as well and the Nintendo discussion section there is absolutely glacial compared to, say, 4-5 years ago.

Resetera on the other hand, is still very active, and their moderation is extremely strict. Not sure what their secret is, how they manage to thrive under such conditions.

Simple - they took the most popular forum and expanded. Others are in decline because the landscape has changed and they need to evolve with it.



                                                                                                             

Why should people still visit this site when it's main product (sales charts) are no longer provided?

Either VGC will have to drastically reinvent itself, or it will die a slow death, which would be a shame. But if I'm correct the owner doesn't really care anymore, so that's not so good.



What I've been noticing these past few years is that Nintendo-related content has been taking up more and more space on VGC. I remember the first time I became aware of it was back in 2016 where every Nintendo fan and his mom were making duplicate threads about Switch and BotW rumors.

While that in itself is perfectly fine and somewhat natural considering how awesome the Switch and its games are doing, I think that it limits the potential and appeal of the site. People dropping by searching for PC/PS/XB-related content won't necessarily stick around for long.

You could say that a solution would be for people to start making more varied threads but I simply don't think that VGC has the number of PC/PS/XB-leaning users required to create and nurture such threads. It had 3-4 years ago but not anymore.

As of this writing, only 2 out of 14 "Hot topics" (VGC's bread and butter) are related to PC/PS/XB. The rest are made up of 6 Nintendo-related threads, 3 NSFW, 1 political, 1 movie and 1 general thread.

http://imgur.com/gallery/cjJqMFS

Last edited by Replicant - on 06 October 2019

Replicant said:

What I've been noticing these past few years is that Nintendo-related content has been taking up more and more space on VGC. I remember the first time I became aware of it was back in 2016 where every Nintendo fan and his mom were making duplicate threads about Switch and BotW rumors.

While that in itself is perfectly fine and somewhat natural considering how awesome the Switch and its games are doing, I think that it limits the potential and appeal of the site. People dropping by searching for PC/PS/XB-related content won't necessarily stick around for long.

You could say that a solution would be for people to start making more varied threads but I simply don't think that VGC has the number of PC/PS/XB-leaning users required to create and nurture such threads. It had 3-4 years ago but not anymore.

As of this writing, only 2 out of 14 "Hot topics" (VGC's bread and butter) are related to PC/PS/XB. The rest are made up of 6 Nintendo-related threads, 3 NSFW, 1 political, 1 movie and 1 general thread.

http://imgur.com/gallery/cjJqMFS

This site has been mostly a Nintendo fans place since it started.

Back in 2013/2014 it had its last users surge with the 8th gen start, but also a massive leave since mid 2014 too from XBOX fans due to this gen sales disparity.

After a while PS4 was the only hot stuff and PS fans were somewhat rivaling Nintendo fans, but it didn't take long for a good bunch to leave for other sites too, like VizionEck. Then Nintendo fans became completely dominant in numbers again, but it was with the NX rumors that they started to become more active and showing clearly how many more of them are around here.

Now with the success of the Switch it's all about Nintendo again, but even so, a lot of the Nintendo fanbase has also already left too.

What remained of VGC is actually some of the better users that are sadly not that active anymore.

This site was REALLY toxic back in the time I joined and for some years too, you should remember it, and if the toxicity going way made the site became a small community, it seems fine to me.

It may be kinda boring now but it's a decent place to come by sometimes, tho. (I don't do involve myself into long political discussions tho, so the toxicity may still be there and I just don't involve myself with it anymore)

Buuuut, we are about to have a new generation, it's going to bring a bunch of new users here that will get interested in a new consoles battle for dominance... and certainly have some new troublemakers and some old coming back too. It'll get more lively for sure, just dunno if in a good way.

I miss some people, tho.



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Zuhyc said:
Why should people still visit this site when it's main product (sales charts) are no longer provided?

Either VGC will have to drastically reinvent itself, or it will die a slow death, which would be a shame. But if I'm correct the owner doesn't really care anymore, so that's not so good.

This forum can offer more than just sales charts though.
Its as good a place as any for topics related to gameing, news, reviews ect.

We need to be super carefull with bans though, like retention of users is more important now than ever.
Once too few users are makeing use of it, it ll snowball, and vise versa.

Im with you though, I'd rather see VGCs try to reinvent itself, than slowly fade away.


Does VGCs have a offical youtube channel? where reviews, or bits of news could be released as well?
And it could all have links, leading back to these forums?
Maybe a Twitter? I wouldnt want to try running it, but if someone is up for it, it could be a way to garner new attention, and users.



I've been on NeoGaf for the last little bit. I suppose my issue with this site is that it's not as clean and easy to navigate in my opinion. I rarely come by anymore because of it.



Replicant said:

What I've been noticing these past few years is that Nintendo-related content has been taking up more and more space on VGC. I remember the first time I became aware of it was back in 2016 where every Nintendo fan and his mom were making duplicate threads about Switch and BotW rumors.

While that in itself is perfectly fine and somewhat natural considering how awesome the Switch and its games are doing, I think that it limits the potential and appeal of the site. People dropping by searching for PC/PS/XB-related content won't necessarily stick around for long.

You could say that a solution would be for people to start making more varied threads but I simply don't think that VGC has the number of PC/PS/XB-leaning users required to create and nurture such threads. It had 3-4 years ago but not anymore.

As of this writing, only 2 out of 14 "Hot topics" (VGC's bread and butter) are related to PC/PS/XB. The rest are made up of 6 Nintendo-related threads, 3 NSFW, 1 political, 1 movie and 1 general thread.

http://imgur.com/gallery/cjJqMFS

Maybe I should start making Xbox threads again...and TV Shows.

JRPGfan said:
Zuhyc said:
Why should people still visit this site when it's main product (sales charts) are no longer provided?

Either VGC will have to drastically reinvent itself, or it will die a slow death, which would be a shame. But if I'm correct the owner doesn't really care anymore, so that's not so good.

This forum can offer more than just sales charts though.
Its as good a place as any for topics related to gameing, news, reviews ect.

We need to be super carefull with bans though, like retention of users is more important now than ever.
Once too few users are makeing use of it, it ll snowball, and vise versa.

Im with you though, I'd rather see VGCs try to reinvent itself, than slowly fade away.

Does VGCs have a offical youtube channel? where reviews, or bits of news could be released as well?
And it could all have links, leading back to these forums?
Maybe a Twitter? I wouldnt want to try running it, but if someone is up for it, it could be a way to garner new attention, and users.

No Youtube channel, it does have a Twitter though if anyone wants to follow it: https://twitter.com/VGChartz



Yesterday saw NPD rankings get released and Nintendo announced a new sales milestone for Switch.

Topics that used to get hundreds of replies go completely unnoticed now, this site is close to dead.



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zorg1000 said:
Yesterday saw NPD rankings get released and Nintendo announced a new sales milestone for Switch.

Topics that used to get hundreds of replies go completely unnoticed now, this site is close to dead.

People leaving led to other people leaving due to lower activity levels here. It snowballed, simple as that.

An occasional look at ResetEra makes me realize that the thread at the bottom of their first page of hot topics was last posted in 5-10 minutes ago, but on VGC it's regularly a timestamp of 10 hours or more ago.

There are fewer sales numbers to go around nowadays, but what's probably more important is that VGC hasn't had good sales discussions in a long time, so there's next to nothing that makes this site special anymore. Hardly any reasons to come here, hardly any reasons to stay. Other forums are able to provide much the same and so much more on top of it.

I'd say VGC is past the point of no return by now. The state of the site seems to be irrevertible.



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