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I believe Gamepass has millions of subscribers simply because Phil Spencer claimed so...

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-game-pass-has-millions-of-subscribers/1100-6463276/

It makes sense to me, new games launch on the service. Since it started they added almost every 1st party game along with new games on day one.

So we had data last year claiming PS Now was crushing competitors in revenue. I called bullshit, I didn't think that was possible. I didn't believe PS Now had millions of subscribers for old games. Others said its certainly feasible given market share, my opinion was not popular but I didn't have data to prove otherwise.

https://venturebeat.com/2018/11/07/superdata-players-who-pay-for-subscriptions-spend-45-more-on-games/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Now it turns out PS Now apparently has 700K subscribers...

https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/18q4_sonyspeech.pdf

In a nutshell, I think we have enough evidence to prove Gamepass has more subscribers and is the superior service! When Sony gets their balls out of their purse and gives me new games on day one, I will subscribe.

What say you?!



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PSNow making more revenue is still actually quite believable considering how often MS has been giving out $1 subscriptions, which I am sure makes up a large number of the subscribers.
Sony hasn't done that with PS Now, and I think the cheapest they have had is $10 for a month.

None of this info is surprising. PS Now having fewer users has been obvious for some time, it just wasn't suspected to be as low as 700k.



Phil speaks out his ass a lot.......doubt there is actually millions signed up right now. The moment that 1 dollar sub goes away people stop



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If PS Now has 700,000 streaming/rental users when compared to PS+s 36 million it's clear which service is the money maker. Of course these are very different services but IMO Sony would be smart to leverage NOW as a way to enhance Plus and increase Plus subscriptions (maybe plus premium). They have the buy in with Plus to the tune of 36 million and using NOW to add value might increase Plus membership and would be worth way more that 700,000 NOW customers on their own.

The business model of streaming anything but older games really requires a huge install base to make software development affordable/profitable and a customer base in the low millions (or below) will relegate that type of service to old games and free to play, micro transaction, GAAS type software.



Yes, Gamepass is an absolutely fantastic deal for gamers, the quality and newness of the games offered with it is astonishing. It doesn't offer streaming yet (I think streaming might cost extra, but who knows), yet it still is the superior service, but .. doesn't it feel like too good a deal? I'm not sure it's sustainable to keep prices this low for what's on offer, while it seems to me that PSNow had to run with very slight deficit at most.



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Superdata has been full of shit from the start.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

DaveTheMinion13 said:
Phil speaks out his ass a lot.......doubt there is actually millions signed up right now. The moment that 1 dollar sub goes away people stop

Why would people unsubscribe to Gamepass and stay subscribed to PS Now?

I subscribe to Gamepass solely because new games launch on it, that's what sold me. They don't have anything like that to hype PS Now.



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DaveTheMinion13 said:
Phil speaks out his ass a lot.......doubt there is actually millions signed up right now. The moment that 1 dollar sub goes away people stop

They may not lie about 'numbers'.

Gamepass has some nice perks and it seems it has a group of fans even here on vgchartz.  Being Cheap/Cheaper is not a negative thing.






Well in terms of revenue PS Now could well be above gamepass. I mean, you don't have to be a susbscriber. You can effectively rent streams on it as well, right? So there could be plenty of people just temporarily paying for specific games rather than becoming subscribers. I don't believe that's possible for gamepass.

But yeah, gamepass is the superior service, I'll 100% agree with that. As far as I'm concerned PS Now is a piece of trash. Actually downloading games instead of just streaming them is leagues better. Although I'd still say gamepass is woefully inferior to actually owning games.

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Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

Of course GamePass has more subscribers, they were/are practically giving it away for a dollar/euro per month.

So far I had a free trial month, 1 month for €1 in December and 2 months (February + March) for a sum of €2. Unfortunately I missed out on the Easter deal (3 months GamePass for €3), but I'm sure that it wasn't the last GamePass deal.