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d21lewis said:
Oh, if somebody digs up the old Avengers 2 thread, I'm pretty sure I said Cap was worthy of Mjolnir!

I have never been able to understand the rules of Mjolnir. Like, what exactly makes a person "worthy"? Is it honor? goodheart? bravery?
Like, what exactly makes Thor more worthy than say, Tony? I mean, we now know that Tony was willing to sacrifice himself to save others so.. What else can you ask from a person?



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chakkra said:
d21lewis said:
Oh, if somebody digs up the old Avengers 2 thread, I'm pretty sure I said Cap was worthy of Mjolnir!

I have never been able to understand the rules of Mjolnir. Like, what exactly makes a person "worthy"? Is it honor? goodheart? bravery?
Like, what exactly makes Thor more worthy than say, Tony? I mean, we now know that Tony was willing to sacrifice himself to save others so.. What else can you ask from a person?

He wasn't.... kinda.

Myself and some mates had a chat about Dr Strange telling Tony that "If I tell you what happens then you wont do it" we started off disputing that Tony would very likely have clicked if he knew it meant death..... the only issue is Strange isn;t just saying it on a hunch, he has experienced the version of endgame exactly as we seen it but telling Tony.... and it just doesn't work out for one reason or another.

The rukes of Mjolnir was they wanted half the cinema crowd to cream their pants and it worked :D ..... I'm part of that half lol

/salute @ Americas ass



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I gotta say that I did not like watching Captain Marvel butting heads with a Gauntlet-welding Thanos two minutes after he mopped the floor with Thor, Capt and Tony (without the Gauntlet on).

That was a huge turn off for me.

Oh! and I did not like the fact that Hulk never got his rematch against Thanos.



Ganoncrotch said:
chakkra said:

I have never been able to understand the rules of Mjolnir. Like, what exactly makes a person "worthy"? Is it honor? goodheart? bravery?
Like, what exactly makes Thor more worthy than say, Tony? I mean, we now know that Tony was willing to sacrifice himself to save others so.. What else can you ask from a person?

He wasn't.... kinda.

Myself and some mates had a chat about Dr Strange telling Tony that "If I tell you what happens then you wont do it" we started off disputing that Tony would very likely have clicked if he knew it meant death..... the only issue is Strange isn;t just saying it on a hunch, he has experienced the version of endgame exactly as we seen it but telling Tony.... and it just doesn't work out for one reason or another.

The rukes of Mjolnir was they wanted half the cinema crowd to cream their pants and it worked :D ..... I'm part of that half lol

/salute @ Americas ass

I guess that makes sense.

But then again, Tony is supposed to be smart enough to know that he wouldn't survive the snap...

But anyways, I clapped, laughed and cried so yeah.. I had a good time. That's all that matters lol.



chakkra said:

I gotta say that I did not like watching Captain Marvel butting heads with a Gauntlet-welding Thanos two minutes after he mopped the floor with Thor, Capt and Tony (without the Gauntlet on).

That was a huge turn off for me.

Oh! and I did not like the fact that Hulk never got his rematch against Thanos.

Dr Hulk is missing an arm when Thanos comes to Earth, it would not have been a fair fight considering that Thanos took on hulk in a fist fight and won. Just if you see Hulk in that finale fight... his right arm is a singed mess, it completely swings limply and with no real power. It would have been his death tbh to engage Thanos.



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3 viewings now.... that film hits me every time, even knowing the outcome the final scenes still onion the shit out of me



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Ultrashroomz said:
I legit almost cried during that scene when everyone came back.

It was the same emotional high I felt when I saw "Everyone is Here" during that Smash Ultimate trailer except multiplied tenfold.

I visualized that in my mind over the screen when they all showed up, even some you certainly didn't think about - just like in Smash with Young Link and Pichu, for instance.



Ganoncrotch said:
btw, google Thanos and click his glove on the right side of the screen!

LOL!

Spoiler!
Also, funny how in the end, the number of search results is reduced by exaactly half...


Ganoncrotch said:
chakkra said:

I have never been able to understand the rules of Mjolnir. Like, what exactly makes a person "worthy"? Is it honor? goodheart? bravery?
Like, what exactly makes Thor more worthy than say, Tony? I mean, we now know that Tony was willing to sacrifice himself to save others so.. What else can you ask from a person?

He wasn't.... kinda.

Myself and some mates had a chat about Dr Strange telling Tony that "If I tell you what happens then you wont do it" we started off disputing that Tony would very likely have clicked if he knew it meant death..... the only issue is Strange isn;t just saying it on a hunch, he has experienced the version of endgame exactly as we seen it but telling Tony.... and it just doesn't work out for one reason or another.

The rukes of Mjolnir was they wanted half the cinema crowd to cream their pants and it worked :D ..... I'm part of that half lol

/salute @ Americas ass

Cap wielding the Hammer was the best moment for me in the movie, the whole room Lost their Minds and everyone cheered. First time i Saw something like this on cinema 



 

Ganoncrotch said:

@underlined Lad the movie was 3 hours long trying its damnest to tie up so much plot.... to quote Stranges buddy "what?.... you wanted more?"

regarding your "that's not how time travel works" they took the time to tell you in the film a few times..... you know "how time travel works because of sci fi" unless you have proved and done time travel other than chugging forwards at a rate of 1 second per second like the rest of us I don't know how you feel confident enough to say how time travel "works" because it is for the most part a sci fi tool.

I'm a Marvel comic fanboy, I wanted lady Death, I wanted Fantastic Four, the X-men, I wanted Adam Warlock. I'd have Genis-Vell over Warbird 200% of the time. 'Tis my job to be picky.

And Marvel time travel is exactly as you saw, unpredictable and inconsistent, time travel isn't just go back and technically it's already happened as indicated this in this 4 or 5 events happened which changes the very timeline of the main MCU timeline, as the Ancient One stated. You can't just 'put it back and it's all sorted'. There are so many instances of time travel in Marvel that show one simple fact, the moment you travel back in time, it changes the timelines. Bishop, Cable, Kang, they try and change a past that has already happened but all it does is move forward slightly differently. Their presence alone affects things. These's futures have and will not come to pass in the way they think because of their presence alone, it is due to their free will. This was Bendis mistake on New X-men and why he lost me, claiming those X-men were the actual X-men, while they aged and gained powers too early.

d21lewis said:
Oh, if somebody digs up the old Avengers 2 thread, I'm pretty sure I said Cap was worthy of Mjolnir!

As a comic reader, we both know you said that and you are always right.

d21lewis said:

I know Iron Man was the film that started it all and he was the one who basically saved the day but I kinda didn't think he deserved the "honor". 2/3 of his films were just okay to me. Not bad but not "Winter Soldier good". In history, his books were never the most popular. He wasn't a mascot like Spidey, the first like Cap, or the Fantastic Four. But I'm a jaded old asshole. Ignore me. The way they handled his character in Civil War and the Avengers films was great.

You are right, no Iron Man film was Winter Soldier good, Iron man was best in films where he existed but wasn't the main character. Spider-man is the hero of Marvel comics, he is the greatest of them all. https://i.imgur.com/vflnrBq.jpg



Hmm, pie.