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Watched it last night. Awesome movie! The best one in the MCU for me.



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NightlyPoe said:

That's why I hate time travel.  It's one giant plot hole.

That's why the multiverse exists and timelines branch off when timetravel occurs, it does this to allow for free will/changes. If someone were to go back in time, revive Tony or bring that Tony to the future, all it would do is remove Tony from the timeline they took him from. That timeline would continue on without those people in it, just like the Thanos from the past timeline in this.

d21lewis said:
As a DC fan, I was gonna nitpick this movie to death, despite the fact that I really enjoyed it (for example, how did Scott Lang find his name amongst the BILLIONS of people who died--and how was he so sure it was him?) but one thing stopped me:

Kevin Smith.

I love that guy so much and his spoiler talk... It really made me less cynical and appreciative of just what Marvel had done. Now, I'll defend this film to the death.

Part of being a fan of comics, regardless of DC or Marvel (or Image... poor souls) is being able to pick at silly things. Spoilers are spoilers but picking at a well made film just adds to the fun.



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Bristow9091 said:

Wasn't it said somewhere that they're pushing for Captain Marvel (Brie Larson) to be the new face of the MCU going forward?

I haven't heard that from any official source like Feige or one of the directors.  Do you have a source for that?

I can give you two;

https://screenrant.com/captain-marvel-mcu-leader-kevin-feige/

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/03/15/captain-marvel-phase-four-kevin-feige/



Faelco said:

I honestly like what they did physically to Thor. He looks more like the Thor of mythology, less Hollywoodian playboy. The depressive part is also kinda understandable. The Fortnite part is a great continuation to Thor Ragnarok and the roommate webshorts.

Amazing movie, made me cry a few times. Perfect end for several key characters, it will be hard to continue without Cap and Tony honestly. They need to find a great actor to carry the Avengers movies from now on, and they didn't find yet (Black Panther, Spiderman and Captain Marvel are very far from this level for now).

Only one small scene bothered me a little, the "girls power to save Spiderman". Felt a little forced in the middle of the awesome battle. No big deal, I just hope that they won't multiply that kind of stuff from now on.

EDIT: "bothered" is too strong a word. It just made me smile like "a bit obvious, guys, no?". Let them show their strength by fighting like they were doing, no need for the pause in the action for the slow motion close up one by one. They handled Captain Marvel, Potts and Valkyrie very well for example. 

You know the Girl power scene is an interesting one.  When I say it I was like oh boy here we go, then when I thought about it a little more I was like, how many times have we seen a scene like that but it was all male heros.  In other words, if the scene was all males we would not have thought anything about it because it would feel natural.  I believe the they threw that scene in there because it isn't natural to see and it had the exact effect on most men thinking SJW.  If they would have had a woman leading the charge it also would not feel natural but in reality it shouldn't feel different at all.



Machiavellian said:
Faelco said:

I honestly like what they did physically to Thor. He looks more like the Thor of mythology, less Hollywoodian playboy. The depressive part is also kinda understandable. The Fortnite part is a great continuation to Thor Ragnarok and the roommate webshorts.

Amazing movie, made me cry a few times. Perfect end for several key characters, it will be hard to continue without Cap and Tony honestly. They need to find a great actor to carry the Avengers movies from now on, and they didn't find yet (Black Panther, Spiderman and Captain Marvel are very far from this level for now).

Only one small scene bothered me a little, the "girls power to save Spiderman". Felt a little forced in the middle of the awesome battle. No big deal, I just hope that they won't multiply that kind of stuff from now on.

EDIT: "bothered" is too strong a word. It just made me smile like "a bit obvious, guys, no?". Let them show their strength by fighting like they were doing, no need for the pause in the action for the slow motion close up one by one. They handled Captain Marvel, Potts and Valkyrie very well for example. 

You know the Girl power scene is an interesting one.  When I say it I was like oh boy here we go, then when I thought about it a little more I was like, how many times have we seen a scene like that but it was all male heros.  In other words, if the scene was all males we would not have thought anything about it because it would feel natural.  I believe the they threw that scene in there because it isn't natural to see and it had the exact effect on most men thinking SJW.  If they would have had a woman leading the charge it also would not feel natural but in reality it shouldn't feel different at all.

Even in probably the most iconic scene very early on from the first avengers movie it isn't all male.

There is nothing natural about the collection of female heroes together because it's a scene constructed for one reason and it's to show all the female heroes together. The reason alone means the scene isn't a natural happening especially with the number of heroes, the odds of seeing 10+ heroes all of the same gender are insanely high, to the point of being laughable.



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Ganoncrotch said:
Machiavellian said:

You know the Girl power scene is an interesting one.  When I say it I was like oh boy here we go, then when I thought about it a little more I was like, how many times have we seen a scene like that but it was all male heros.  In other words, if the scene was all males we would not have thought anything about it because it would feel natural.  I believe the they threw that scene in there because it isn't natural to see and it had the exact effect on most men thinking SJW.  If they would have had a woman leading the charge it also would not feel natural but in reality it shouldn't feel different at all.

Even in probably the most iconic scene very early on from the first avengers movie it isn't all male.

There is nothing natural about the collection of female heroes together because it's a scene constructed for one reason and it's to show all the female heroes together. The reason alone means the scene isn't a natural happening especially with the number of heroes, the odds of seeing 10+ heroes all of the same gender are insanely high, to the point of being laughable.

Yeah, and if SJ wasn't in that scene you wouldn't blink an eye or think any different now would you.  Lets not act as if that scene was all male you would be thinking to yourself, OK SJW. Isn't that the whole point.  If you see any scene with just all males would you even discuss it.  It would not matter if there was only a few heros or a hundred. You wouldn't blink an eye, think twice about it or even discuss it and it probably would have faded from your memory just as quick as the scene showed on screen.

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Machiavellian said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Even in probably the most iconic scene very early on from the first avengers movie it isn't all male.

There is nothing natural about the collection of female heroes together because it's a scene constructed for one reason and it's to show all the female heroes together. The reason alone means the scene isn't a natural happening especially with the number of heroes, the odds of seeing 10+ heroes all of the same gender are insanely high, to the point of being laughable.

Yeah, and if JS wasn't in that scene you wouldn't blink an eye or think any different now would you.  Lets not act as if that scene was all male you would be thinking to yourself, OK SJW. Isn't that the whole point.  If you see any scene with just all males would you even discuss it.  It would not matter if there was only a few heros or a hundred. You wouldn't blink an eye, think twice about it or even discuss it and it probably would have faded from your memory just as quick as the scene showed on screen.

I would still consider that a bad scene even if it was all guys. A slow motion to show all characters in close-up one by one, in the middle of an amazing and fast battle, is out of place and breaks the rhythm, that's what makes it noticeable. You had a lot of bad ass moments for women during this battle, you had women saving men, and everything felt natural and normal, in the flow. But cut everything, teleport 10 characters at a same place out of nowhere, do a long individual close up and slow motion, and that right here is unnatural and forced.

EDIT: They should have done that at the beginning of the battle, when everyone was arriving by the portals. That would have been natural there. Not in the middle of the fight.

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I think that what bothered me most about the "girl power" scene was that a lot of the women there were useless in this particular situation. Captain Marvel didn't need them. And then, I'm not sure if they even actually did anything. It's like me saying "I have to fight Mike Tyson" and a bunch of random babies that I've never met showing up and saying "We got your back!"

Aside from that, I'm cool with it. I mean how many times did random groups wind up with their established franchise members in obvious group photos? It was a moment. It looked good. I didn't read too deeply into it.



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Faelco said:
Machiavellian said:

I would still consider that a bad scene even if it was all guys. A slow motion to show all characters in close-up one by one, in the middle of an amazing and fast battle, is out of place and breaks the rhythm, that's what makes it noticeable. You had a lot of bad ass moments for women during this battle, you had women saving men, and everything felt natural and normal, in the flow. But cut everything, teleport 10 characters at a same place out of nowhere, do a long individual close up and slow motion, and that right here is unnatural and forced.

EDIT: They should have done that at the beginning of the battle, when everyone was arriving by the portals. That would have been natural there. Not in the middle of the fight.

The thing is, we will never know if you would or would not even blink if it was all males or even all white males.  I know for a fact, I probably would think nothing about it, hell, I would even say if the whole movie did not have one woman or any character other than all white males I probably wouldn't think to much about it.  Feature a movie with a cast that features no white males and then we start talking.  It is what it is when it comes to movies. 

If the scene was all asian, all black, hispanic you would notice but if the scene was all white males you would not.  Anything other than the norm is always noticed and criticized or not depending on the SJW line you sit on.  It's the reason people comment about it.  The scene stuck more in your mind because it was all women then the slow motion or anything else.