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996 working hour system. Epic games & Fortnite, China tech hell, microsoft employees revolt.

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Imagine a 72 hour work week, the hardest working week of your life or very close to it. Now imagine the most mundane job in tech and imagine living that 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, 365 days a year. That is some peoples life in China, if it even can be called a life cause that sounds more life hell to me. 

Wiki: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system

Fortnite qnd Epic games employees, 70 hours with overtime to 100 hours for deadlines. https://m.ie.ign.com/articles/2019/04/24/fortnite-developers-at-epic-games-are-working-70-hour-weeks-claims-new-report

Current arcticle from random site: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2019/apr/22/microsoft-workers-decry-grueling-996-working-standard-at-chinese-tech-firms

Philp Defranco youtube video for the multitaskers out there. Starts at 10.00 or so, time stamp in comments.

Thoughts?

...and prayers. Many  mamy prayers for these poor souls.  

Last edited by John2290 - on 25 April 2019

 

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Opps, double penetration. Ouch.



 

Everything in the above reply is my opinion, from my own perspective and not representative of reality outside of my own head!

-Android user, please be gentle with critique on my spelling.

Working is a sweat shop somewhere in Bangladesh is worse that that. Also before the rise of unions those where pretty much common work hours in all factory jobs and on top of that child labor was also very common everywhere.



Chris Hu said:
Working is a sweat shop somewhere in Bangladesh is worse that that. Also before the rise of unions those where pretty much common work hours in all factory jobs and on top of that child labor was also very common everywhere.

And this has bearing on the current 996 system in China now for what reason exactly? 

A man being shot in the balls to bleed out in one country does not make it any less horrific when a man gets shot in the head in another country. Bad analogy aside it doesn't matter what is happening in sweat shops or what was the norm historically, this is happening now and currently has public view, a protest from giant tech and potential for change. 



 

Everything in the above reply is my opinion, from my own perspective and not representative of reality outside of my own head!

-Android user, please be gentle with critique on my spelling.

John2290 said:
Chris Hu said:
Working is a sweat shop somewhere in Bangladesh is worse that that. Also before the rise of unions those where pretty much common work hours in all factory jobs and on top of that child labor was also very common everywhere.

And this has bearing on the current 996 system in China now for what reason exactly? 

A man being shot in the balls to bleed out in one country does not make it any less horrific when a man gets shot in the head in another country. Bad analogy aside it doesn't matter what is happening in sweat shops or what was the norm historically, this is happening now and currently has public view, a protest from giant tech and potential for change. 

Again working in a sweat shop is much worse not only are the hours just as long if not even longer but on top of all that the work is harder and working conditions are much worse.  Most sweat shops wouldn't pass work safety standards of most countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Savar_building_collapse



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Chris Hu said:
John2290 said:

And this has bearing on the current 996 system in China now for what reason exactly? 

A man being shot in the balls to bleed out in one country does not make it any less horrific when a man gets shot in the head in another country. Bad analogy aside it doesn't matter what is happening in sweat shops or what was the norm historically, this is happening now and currently has public view, a protest from giant tech and potential for change. 

Again working in a sweat shop is much worse not only are the hours just as long if not even longer but on top of all that the work is harder and working conditions are much worse.  Most sweat shops wouldn't pass work safety standards of most countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Savar_building_collapse

It is aweful yes, but again it has no bearing on this conversation. If Microsoft employees were also revolting for sweat shops I'd consider it but they are not. 996 is not made better because there are sweat shops in the far east nor is it made worse because of 9 to 5 in the west, it simple is and it is absolutely horrible. 



 

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china is a communist country



There is nothing wrong with the work hours. They should be compensated better. Even in 1st world countries some factories operate this way. My mum has been doing 12 hour shifts for the last 10 years (the 15 before that we 8 hour). The only difference is they get paid better, so employees are happy to do it.



 

 

o_O.Q said:
china is a communist country

Not really they are actually a lot more capitalistic then most other countries in the world.   The last time China was even close to being communist was when Mao Zedong was still alive. 



72-hour work weeks occur even in developed countries. OP needs more than that if the goal is to show how bad those particular workers have it. The big difference would likely be all the other worker rights, along with the scope of payment.