Appears that the most recent and legitimate study claims 65% but includes anyone that they had no information on as someone that desisted which is arguable so that number is likely decreased. So what is your prescription for parents whose children say they are transgender given that half will desist? You think it's illegitimate to support these children in their conclusion because half of them will reverse the decision in their teen years?

I mean the article I linked previously concluded that trans children who were supported in their decision showed no increased mental health issues compared to their peers so what exactly is the downside to supporting a child who thinks they are transgender?

I will also state that the idea that half of these kids were wrong still shows that most of them had a pretty good idea of what gender is and what their gender is in particular. Only 0.5-0.6% of people identify as transgender so the idea that these kids were only wrong half the time seems to indicate they have a pretty good idea of their gender even at that age. Otherwise there would be 99.5% desistance to match the numbers seen in the general population. 

Would you support a child in their decision to bungle jump (if it were legal) would that be what they want to do. Would you support their decision to drink alcohol, smoke weed and do other drugs would that be what they want? Perhpas join the army, a lot of kids want to do that early on, go to war and shoot guns. Should the parent support them in this or is it bad shit insane until they cone of age...

Question: if a parent ignores their child who claims they are transgender and forces them to dress as a boy when they would rather dress as a girl is this also child abuse?

Whats your stance on kids eating nothing but candy all day because thats what they want? Would you just let them? And yes, I know its not the same comparison. Just an example of when a kid does not know what its talking about.

But its simple. You dont have to encourage the thought of a toddler. You can explain a little to the kid and let him still claim it or deny it. Not take all their boy close and burn it and buy dresses. You might not believe it, but kids change their minds all the time, so you might not want to take what they say and carve it in stone. 

And about your resistance 99.5% is just absurd. This is just the people being observed. Transgender has exploded recently and parents are doubting their parenting even more. I would not be surprised if at any point in time in our youth we thought we were something else. Just our parents dint think any of it just child play. Now a 2 year old says something and they run to a psychologist. Like you said, trans are a tiny fraction of the population so its easier to study. But the general population is harder to study cuz untill something happens that splits them, then they are a control group.

You believe this research to come out of people with no agenda, money goes into this. Parma companies back this research to sell hormone treatment. Follow the money, yes i won't believe the research until there is zero funding from pharma corps in this area and non profit researchers. If it defies common sense and logic at the most fundamental of levels (for example, fracking research indicates no environmental impact at a local level) then it matters not about research because the evidence of wrong doing is clear as day yo see with your own eyes. There is also the matter of time, it has been such a short period of time that this has hit a large enough geoup size, even the research agree they cannot know the full effects long term. 

Look up the horror stories of trans adults regretting their decisions and the suicide rate.

The problem is that the psychiatric community is being highly politicized on this subject.  It seems that anything mildly contradictory of the "right" answer on the subject the science is silenced.  We went through the same thing a few decades back when gender roles were marked as completely behavioral because that's where the political winds were blowing back then.  And we found plenty of examples of tragedy emanating from that bit of group think.

I would mark this as a blight on psychology and science in general.  I do not trust them on the subject and find their opinions of little use.

To answer the original poster, yes I believe this is child abuse.  A three-year-old is not capable of making such a life-altering decision and the gender confusion created by parents and psychologists and teachers pretending with an undeveloped mind that doesn't know the difference between real and imagined is just terrible.

My personal view on the trans subject in general is that the common view is misguided.  We should call everyone what they biologically are.  A man can live the socially constructed norms of a woman if he so chooses, but that man also needs to come to grips with what he is, NOT WHAT HE WANTS TO BE.  There's an old psychology story that fits here.  A school was having trouble and decided that they should improve the students' self-esteem.  They praised the students no matter how poor their work.  The idea was that the kids would feel better about themselves and get better grades (self-esteem actually has little to do with success, but that's another matter).  Instead, all they did was increase the number of fights in the school.  See, the dumb students remained dumb, but they were being told otherwise.  It wasn't new that these students were having difficulty in school, but it was new that they were being praised.  There was a conflict where they wanted to keep pretending they were smart, but knew that it wasn't true.  When someone pierce the fantasy, they either went away feeling bad about themselves, or fought to keep their self-esteem up.  In the end, nothing good came of the program.

Everyone pretending that a person is something that they're not doesn't help anyone.  Including the person who we are humoring.  Because there will always be plenty of people who will not accept the fantasy and will say the truth.  We know that trans people are particularly hurt by this.  Well, that's because, like in the example above, they know the truth.  No matter how much social pressure there is, there is no getting around the truth.

E pur si muove (And yet it moves)

If it weren't the truth, then the person would be able to shrug it off.  You can call me a woman all day long, it wouldn't do much more than make me look at you funny.  I'll go home completely unconflicted.  The source of the pain is the loss of the breaking of the fantasy.  We need to help trans people deal with what they are.  Only then will they be able to live healthy lives.  Playing pretend for a lifetime just keeps people running into the same walls as reality keeps intruding.

You believe this research to come out of people with no agenda, money goes into this. Parma companies back this research to sell hormone treatment. Follow the money, yes i won't believe the research until there is zero funding from pharma corps in this area and non profit researchers. If it defies common sense and logic at the most fundamental of levels (for example, fracking research indicates no environmental impact at a local level) then it matters not about research because the evidence of wrong doing is clear as day yo see with your own eyes. There is also the matter of time, it has been such a short period of time that this has hit a large enough geoup size, even the research agree they cannot know the full effects long term. 

Look up the horror stories of trans adults regretting their decisions and the suicide rate. There once was a pregnancy drug called, Thalidomide, people put faith in the research of that drug yet it resulted in the destruction and sifferig of many, many lives.

Again, you have chosen an example where there are obvious detriments to supporting the child's decision. Show me the same for transgendered youth and you have a point. From what I've read supporting a child in their gender choices would be akin to supporting them in the colors they want to wear. It has no detrimental effects. Show me otherwise or stop with these crazy examples that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. 

And where the fuck did I say to take all their boy clothes and burn them and buy dresses? How is that supporting the child in their making a decision?

So you argue that there are more trans in the current generation than 0.5%? Can you show me anything that supports this because so far this (similar to your other claims) really seems like a "feels over reals" argument that I can't really argue against with facts and data. 

Look at the suicide rate and I will ask you again. Please ask me intents form of a question instead of framing the words for me, words I did not say. I will not reply to strawmanning.