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Its crossgen so its sales need to be seperated as such



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Switch pro will likely have some 4k output available to it.  Some indie games and streaming services.   Matching up the current resolution of the mainstream TV has never been what impacted Nintendo sales. Plus switch will have multiple models and many switch systems are being sold and have been sold as a handheld mainly purchase.

Wii didn't match up well with mainstream televisions. Sold like gangbusters.

Wiiu matched up well with mainstream televisions. Solid like garbage. 

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JRPGfan said:
fatslob-:O said:
The way I see things, the Switch is a last gen system so not really all that comparable to the next home consoles IMO ...

Doubt there'll be a higher end version of a Switch and I doubt it would alleviate the potential drying up of third party support anyways. Hitting resolution and frame rate targets are going to be the least of concerns when the vast majority of 3rd parties are going to be forced to accept the X1 as the bare minimum soon baseline for technically lower end games once the new systems reach the streets ...

^ this.

How can Switch be same gen as PS5 & XB2 ?

ARM Cortex-A57 @1ghz (x4 big cores + x4 little A53 cores) vs  8core/16 thread Zen2 @~3ghz AMD CPU.

CPU wise, Id bet thats like 20 times the power advantage to the PS5/XB2.


GPU wise:
Switch docked is 397 Gflops, while the PS5/XB2 will be 12-14 Tflops or so.
GPU wise, theres probably like a ~40 times power advantage to the PS5/XB2

GDDR6 will probably have like x20 times the memory bandwidth of the Switch.
SSD HDD will make the Switch HD look slow too.

Memory Size, will probably be x5 of the Switch's (16GB for gameing, +4GB for OS ect)


TBH Switch doesnt belong to same gen of hardware as PS5/XB2... its 2 gens behinde in terms of technological advancements.

It wont have TrueAudio, and be able to do raytraceing(audio) or graphics... it wont do VR, and it wont play current games at 4k@60.
Alot of Switch games are running below 720p 30fps.


The differnce between the Switch and PS5/PS6, is like compairing a PS2 to a PS4 almost, its a massive differnce in tech.

No doubt the current Switch unit is last gen tech at this point. But it doesn't really matter what system fits into what gen. What matters is who's making money and how much. I'm expecting Switch to outsell PS4 and/or PS5 mainly because it is not just a console. There will be many different variants. Could easily end up being a console only options, hybrid option, and pocketable version. And they will keep updating the specs inside while maintaining the Switch branding and sharing mostly the same games library. Backward compatible but eventually some games will not run on some of the older switch models. 



Unless Sony screws up royal, I have a hard time seeing the NextBox720 2 outselling the PS5. This gen has been the most "foundational", much more so than last gen, laying the groundwork for continuance into the next gen, through digital libraries, subscriptions and even one's online identity/circle of friends. Or perhaps, more cynically, companies ( especially Sony and MS ) are more likely to entrap customers in their respective ecosystems. I have somewhere around 350-400 games accrued JUST from PS+. I won't even get into my digital and physical purchases. My cup already runneth over. I don't need to add to that with more. And it would take a quite the catastrophe to abandon all that fully and flip over to another brand. Nintendo is back to a point where their system is selling amazingly again, so between them and PS.,....IDK. But at least for next gen, I feel MS will again be a fairly distant, but still respectable 3rd.



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JRPGfan said:

How can Switch be same gen as PS5 & XB2 ?

It's more probably due to timing rather than technology. A next generation Switch successor will almost certainly come in late 2022 which will have been nearly 3 years since the peak of Switch's market performance ... 

Even then I don't expect it to come with hardware accelerated ray tracing so I don't think the Switch's successor will be as lucky as last time in garnering AAA game support. It would be even more bad news if mid tier japanese games started being solely developed for ray tracing in mind not too soon after the Switch's successor launch ... 



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I know that Nintendo will replace the Switch in 2 and a half years. Hardware advancements in gaming usually come at the behest of developers. Nintendo will need more power. So I said 65 million.

Now even at 60 million Switch will still beat the XB4. Microsoft has a problem with exhausting its fanbase too fast. The reason this happens is because they the 360 hid 3 and 4 console sales behind a single person replacing their system. PS5 passes switch easily.

I find it hilarious that folks think that the Switch can do PS4 numbers. Has it even occurred to anyone that Nintendo has bigger plans? What is the largest source of income that Nintendo is missing out on?



kirby007 said:

NS a great console but so far behind the curve most tvs wont cater to its resolution in a few years.

lol



DarthMetalliCube said:

The only time a MS console has surpassed a Nintendo one thus far is the original Xbox (well and Wii U if you count that) and this was largely because of how much Nintendo dropped the ball with those consoles, and even then it barely edged it out Cube by a couple million.

How did Nintendo drop the ball with Gamecube?  The hardware seemed fine, more powerful than the PS2, the most comfortable modern controller I've ever had in my hands, solid 3rd party support, solid in-house support.

The Xbox achieved rough parity with Nintendo because they had an excellent exclusive lineup, the first good online service, the best hardware (original controller excluded), and Halo kicking them into high gear out of the gates.  I'd give Microsoft its props for successfully breaking into the industry more than marginalize Nintendo for trying one last time to compete head-to-hear with Sony before abandoning the spec wars and going niche.



Mate we all know your angle on the Switch already this was your initial outlook on it.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=224655

I can give you one reason why Switch won't drop off like you think it has the whole damn dedicated portable market to itself the 74m+ 3DS owners and 16m+ Vita owners have to go somewhere for their dedicated portable fill, even with overlap and owners of multiple units factored in that potentially 80m users (NS may ship half of that total by the end of this quarter) both PS5 and X4 would have to sell more than that each and considering Xbox's performance outside of the US good luck in that happening.

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Wyrdness said:

Mate we all know your angle on the Switch already this was your initial outlook on it.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=224655

I can give you one reason why Switch won't drop off like you think it has the whole damn dedicated portable market to itself the 74m+ 3DS owners and 16m+ Vita owners have to go somewhere for their dedicated portable fill, even with overlap and owners of multiple units factored in that potentially 80m users (NS may ship half of that total by the end of this quarter) both PS5 and X4 would have to sell more than that each and considering Xbox's performance outside of the US good luck in that happening.

Boy ... those were some good times,lol.

"Nintendo had to slash the price of the 3ds for 80$ after launch because it wasn't selling, do they really expect to sell a 300$ console with 60$ games to those consumers? (Valdath)"

*pff !*

" And soon I'll be a mod. That's game over for you then. (RolStoppable) "

Yup. Good times indeed ...



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