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I am confused, people say the Switch belongs in the PS360 era now the Switch has skipped a generation and is being compared to PS5/XBOX0



 

 

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Cobretti2 said:
I am confused, people say the Switch belongs in the PS360 era now the Switch has skipped a generation and is being compared to PS5/XBOX0

I don't think anyone is saying that. PS4/XB1 era on the other hand.



Well by the logic of a lot of people, Switch's isn't next gen so we can only compare PS5 and Xbox 2 until Switch 2 is released. That's how I see it anyway.



shikamaru317 said:
Where are you getting the rumor that Xbox will be weaker from. Leaks point to 2 different next-gen Xbox, codenamed Lockhart and Anaconda. Lockhart is said to be weaker than PS5 (but also cheaper), while Anaconda is said to be more powerful than PS5 (though possibly more expensive).

This is also a rumor and unknown. Anaconda is rumored to be comparable (maybe a little stronger than, maybe a little weaker than) the PS5. Most of the rumors I've seen are just claims that it wants to be stronger than the PS5, but alternatively the rumors and confirmed info the PS5 both seem to have it above what we hear about the Anaconda. Unfortunately no one will know until at least E3 when they are both revealed.



There is cero chance for the next xbox to outsell switch.



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I'm highly doubtful of this: was the Nintendo DS slowed down by the launch of the XBox 360 one year later?



Airaku said:
shikamaru317 said:
Where are you getting the rumor that Xbox will be weaker from. Leaks point to 2 different next-gen Xbox, codenamed Lockhart and Anaconda. Lockhart is said to be weaker than PS5 (but also cheaper), while Anaconda is said to be more powerful than PS5 (though possibly more expensive).

This is also a rumor and unknown. Anaconda is rumored to be comparable (maybe a little stronger than, maybe a little weaker than) the PS5. Most of the rumors I've seen are just claims that it wants to be stronger than the PS5, but alternatively the rumors and confirmed info the PS5 both seem to have it above what we hear about the Anaconda. Unfortunately no one will know until at least E3 when they are both revealed.

Yesterday, Klobrille, an Xbox insider, showed some evidence to the Era admins that lead them to believe that Anaconda is indeed more powerful than PS5. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot4-when-everyone-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-307#post-19894282

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot4-when-everyone-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-307#post-19895166

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot4-when-everyone-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-308#post-19896368

A 2nd Xbox insider, hmqgg, backed that up as well:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot4-when-everyone-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-308#post-19897602

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I think the PS5 will be a success, im skeptical about the next xbox (this is coming from someone who 90% of the time plays on Xbone)
The whole PC exclusives thing could lower the next xbox sales but at the same time, people who primarly only play on consoles and couldnt care less about PC would still buy an Xbox.
I think it depends on the exclusives and also if microsoft decides to do anything dumb like release the next xbox without a disc drive (as the only model). Also Xbox can improve in europe but it wont ever catch up to playstation there, and in japan theres no point even trying. But i do think if microsoft plays their cards correctly, xbox could gain a 2:1 lead in NA. Thats what it was like during the PS3/360 days. As for the switch, i thought that was 8th gen? xD i think itll continue to be a success.
PS5>Switch>Xb2



While that might be the safest bet given our current landscape, I think it is WAAAAAY too early to make those predictions.



shikamaru317 said:
Airaku said:

This is also a rumor and unknown. Anaconda is rumored to be comparable (maybe a little stronger than, maybe a little weaker than) the PS5. Most of the rumors I've seen are just claims that it wants to be stronger than the PS5, but alternatively the rumors and confirmed info the PS5 both seem to have it above what we hear about the Anaconda. Unfortunately no one will know until at least E3 when they are both revealed.

Yesterday, Klobrille, an Xbox insider, showed some evidence to the Era admins that lead them to believe that Anaconda is indeed more powerful than PS5. 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot4-when-everyone-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-307#post-19894282

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot4-when-everyone-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-307#post-19895166

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot4-when-everyone-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-308#post-19896368

A 2nd Xbox insider, hmqgg, backed that up as well:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-ot4-when-everyone-plays-we-all-win.94058/page-308#post-19897602

Hmmm interesting. Who are Klobrille and Nible and what are their track records? They off no evidence or numbers, nothing but claims of "X is more powerful than Y" which is really nothing more or less than most fans are doing right now.

"Tuesday at 11:49 AM

It's a picture of Lost Odyssey 2 running at 4K 120fps on Anaconda.
How can u see 120fps in a picture?"

That made me laugh pretty hard xD

PS5 is confirmed by Mark Cerny to run natively at 4k and a can be upscaled to 8k. Based on what we know Sony may have the better GPU of the consoles as they seem to have a some deal going with AMD and it will be 7nm after all. Of course in reality that doesn't mean much and Microsoft will undoubtedly go 7nm but Sony's direct involvement in Navi development has me thinking theirs will be much more optimized in practice, which is a no brained when it comes to customized chipsets. That said the CPU was stated to only be an 8 core at an unknown clock speed. It is 100% possible that Anaconda could be going for a 16-core at a higher clock speed. The real test will be seeing how well the actual hardware runs and performs in practice, more cores are not always better depending how the instruction set is spread out.


Again as I said before I want reserve my judgments until it's revealed. The rumored specs of the Xbox One was well ahead of all the rumored PS4 specs and reality was very different from those rumors and leaks. It is true though that the PS4 originally had 4 gigs of ram, rather than 8. Speaking of which, rumors state Sony is looking to do some interesting stuff with memory this time around. I'm sure Microsoft will do the same however. My biggest concern is how much of a hit Microsoft is willing to take by dividing their hardware for a weaker and stronger version of their console, splitting up their game development. This could backfire as Sony will be focusing on one unified, powerful platform. Sony's first party exclusive games will undoubtedly look and play better than Anaconda's top first part titles as they will need to be able to run on Lockhart as well. Meaning it may win in frame-rate and even native resolution, it will most definitely fail to impress by being held back in polycount. I feel the skepticism of this two consoles out the gate is justified as the hardware is rumored to be different. It would another thing entirely if it was like the 360 where the price difference was hard-drive based.

It's hard to say how next gen will go, but Sony is definitely aiming for the hardcore gamers and the goodwill they built with the PS4. I do think that Microsoft may have a surprise or two up their sleeve that will keep them competitive and turn some heads though. I'm really excited to see what they bring this E3, and as the only major press conference on stage this year. They have the whole spotlight to themselves to take advantage of and have everyone focus on them. Phil Spencer claims he is going to take advantage of that moment. Time will tell if he succeeds and delivers the only thing that will sell the next Xbox. Games that people want to actually play!