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Sony to crack down on sexually explicit games |Update: Specifically Japanese games containing underage characters

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Hynad said:
So... Some people here take issue with a company not wanting to come across as misogynistic?

Hmmmm....

Whatever the reason brought forward, people take issue with restricting the freedom of artistic decisions made in their prefered art form.

These restrictions are nothing new by the way. Books, imagery, music has always been restricted based on "inappropriate" content, be it the depiction of religion, sexuality or violence in a context deemed inappropriate.

As an example, to this day the photographs from World War One collected under the title "Krieg dem Kriege" draws regular opposition if an exhibition is made, as the content is deemed inapropriate. Hell yeah it is, because showing the war for what it really does is apparently inappropriate.



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Not something I approve of, developers shall be free to release what their vision is, we already have rating board for the overly sensitive over pixel porn or violence.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Otter said:
o_O.Q said:

men are typically depicted in video games as disposable to a far greater extent than women are, if your argument is that depictions of either gender in video games must be positive then its rather bizarre that the issue of male disposability doesn't seem to be on your radar(well not really since i understand how the ideology works far better than most of its proponents funny enough)

but regardless if the argument is narrowed down to presentation only, well men are idealised in terms of their designs just as much as women are

but people who are infested with the equality doctrine just dishonesty hand wave this away as "male power fantasy" without acknowledging that to be sexy and to be desired is an ideal for women just as much as being strong and powerful is an ideal for men

but obviously they can't acknowledge that, if at the base of their perception is the stupid idea that men and women are the same and have the exact same motivations and drives can they?

lol, I think people completely miss the mark in terms of sexualisation comparisons. Idealised =/=Sexualised.

Now street fighter would never be a target of sony and I think this whole OP is greatly out of context, sexualisation is not being cut out of games. But on the topic the first image in your comparison is not sexualised, the second is. Aa straight man probably wouldn't see this. That Ryu depiction is coming from straight male gaze and which is not driven by sexualisation but more by ideals of masculinity. His whole outfit is also functional, whereas the latter is literally about sexualisation. I mean the developers went through the effort to make the leotard essentially so tight its painted on, it originally also had faint nipple imprints which obviously placed there by horny artists/art directors... 

Emphasis on crotch shots... Military outfits centred on sideboobs lol...Compelely random outfits there to sell the anatomy


 


If Ryu & the other male charcters were sexualised the same you would probably have:

1) more varied body types and not just steroid bodies
2) Random nudity creeping into male outfits where it doesn't belong & outfits existing just to tease
3) Far more chest hair, V-lines & Butt emphasis.
4) More hansome faces (although beareded Ryu and Rashid are babes <3)



 


" Idealised =/=Sexualised."

in the context of physical makeup, they are the exact same thing

"sexualisation is not being cut out of games."

it is and honestly i wouldn't have a problem with that if the reason was logical and consistent

"His whole outfit is also functional, whereas the latter is literally about sexualisation."

men and women in terms of their dress often typically display this difference,  in that men generally dress more practically whereas women dress to emphasize their sexual appeal more

this is why makeup, heels, low cut dresses etc etc etc exist but of course its not politically correct to point out these differences in how men and women present themselves

this is why its pretty idiotic for sjws to claim "WOMEN NEED TO BE DEPICTED THE SAME AS MEN IN GAMES OR ELSE BOYS WILL BE SOCIALISED TO THINK WOMEN ARE SEXUAL OBJECTS"... the obvious rebuttal is what are you going to do about the way real women present themselves? if this argument is actually valid (which its obviously not) why wouldn't the kim kardassians and ava roses of the world do the same?

"Emphasis on crotch shots... Military outfits centred on sideboobs lol...Compelely random outfits there to sell the anatomy"

its almost as bad as if they were shirtless

"If Ryu & the other male charcters were sexualised the same"

men and women are not the same and are attracted to different things

"more varied body types and not just steroid bodies"

i don't think you are going to find many people who find fat/short men more attractive than muscular/tall men

"Random nudity creeping into male outfits where it doesn't belong & outfits existing just to tease"

being shirtless is not nudity? how far would we need to go to put men on the same level as women wearing at the very least dancing outfits?

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twintail said:
o_O.Q said:

fuck sony

men getting slaughtered by the thousands in war games? well that's ok because fuck men

but women showing a little sex appeal? now that's a problem

and nevermind the fact that men are depicted in their idealised forms too, i will never look like kratos no matter how much i train but fucking sjws will just deflect that and say that's a male power fantasy

the ideology driving this is so fucking stupid that it truly is sad to see the influence its garnering for itself

I liked my ps3 and ps4 back in the day but I'm fully converted to PC now, i was considering getting the ps5 but fuck that shit now

I dislike censorship as must as the next guy but using violence as an argument against underage girls being sexualised only shows that you are incapable of justifying said sexualisation of undergage girls.

Both issues are not the same thing. Acceptance of one does not mean acceptance of the other.

And the fact that you use the notion that men in an idealised form (men, not underage boys) to justify your disdain for a policy involving underage girls is truly bizarre.

" but using violence"

yeah i beat up my keyboard pretty bad sometimes especially when i play destiny on pc but i don't see how that is relevant to this discussion... or did you have some other example of violence i was advocating for?

you mean because i said fuck sony?... i'm saying fuck sony because they've disappointed me and i will make sure to never buy their products again

"you are incapable of justifying said sexualisation of undergage girls."

" to justify your disdain for a policy involving underage girls is truly bizarre."

did you read the thread title, the op or my post? i had a suspected not from the earlier part of your post i read and now i'm certain that you haven't read all 3 or if you have then you haven't digested them 



vivster said:
Welp, this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards making inappropriate comments and completely reaffirming Sony's decision. Isn't it nice how society works?

It will certainly an interesting subject to future scholars how the sexual liberation of the 20th century will be completely undone by the 21st century.

you missed the most relevant part - that the sexual revolution will be undone by feminists... you know... the people who are supposed to be advocating for the freedom of women?

"this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards"

what is a neckbeard?



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Do I like games with nude underage girls? No. Do any kid get harmed by it? Not really. Should devs be allowed to release what they want and market decides if they want to purchase or not? Fuck Yeah.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

I 100% agree with Sony some of the games look like they were designed for child molesters not players, underage looking females with oversized breasts impossible figures. All ties in mostly with the JRPG s from certain companies. This should not be a concern to 99% of Sony's base.



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Some posters make it look, like you have to be a fan of nasty illegal stuff to criticize Sony for this. You are not. Let me be crystal clear here: nobody in this thread endorses disgusting, illegal, horrific content.
But let me state one other thing: if Sony only wanted to remove illegal dumpster fires from their platform, they wouldn't need a policy at all, they would just enforcing what the laws mandate. But they need a policy. This obviously means they want to remove legal stuff.
If you are the opinion some stuff is so nasty it should not be distributed, push for a law extension to outlaw this content. Laws are in most countries made through a democratic process and have a lot of considerations brought forward. Not that the process of making laws is without flaws, but I know it is certainly better than ... the managers of a big multinational corporation making arbitrary decisions for all their customers and business partners. Because this is the core of the issue here: some men in power decide over what others can or cannot do, while avoiding democratic process and discussion.

Last edited by Mnementh - on 18 April 2019

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