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DonFerrari said:
Jranation said:

EXACTLY! Say it LOUDER for the people defending this! Because if it doesnt stop now it may become a lot worse. 

I have no idea why people get so offended by pixels to the point to forfeit freedom over it.

Ka-pi96 said:

100% agree.

At least if it's a private company you have the option of just going to a different company instead (and hoping the shitty pro-censorship company goes bankrupt). Government censorship though.... just remember that the nazis and north korea were/are big fans of government censorship and that's about all that needs to be said!

Yep, I really don't like the idea of a government deciding for everyone even on almost universal concepts, so taste/opinion is a point where that is totally unacceptable.

Mnementh said:

There is truth in what you say, but (a very big BUT) there is a reason why people are asking companies like Sony to apply such rules: it is so much easier.

Look, Sony can just implement internal rules, don't tell anyone (as they did until someone asked) and don't release a firm list of criterias. Fuck, there even is no need for a list criterias, Sony can just decide on a whim which game passes and which not, for which game they ask the dev for changes. A law must have clear rules and it must be released to the public so everyone can see these rules.

Sony also don't need to be transparent about the enforcement. So, we only know if this happened, if a dev leaks it or something goes wrong. For the most part we will not know that Sony asked for changes. In difference with a law, you know where it applies. For instance, in germany a public body 'indexes' some media for unfit for public distribution or even completely forbidden to distribute. The rules on these cases are set clear, but more importantly we know how many works are hit by that, for the most part we also know the list and for every media the organization can be asked if that media is on the index. We never will know such a thing for Sony.

To put such restrictions into law a public discussion has to take place and enough legislators have to agree. Even if they do, after the election new lawmakers can change it or take it back entirely. For Sony some manager can just decide on a whim to implement such rules (as it happened). No public discussion, no election.

That is why more and more people are asking or pressuring companies with big marketplaces into such rules. Because they know this doesn't stand a chance to become actual law.

I'm very against law in general. Law should be minimal and simple, covering basic human rights, everything else is to be agreed between people. Companies censoring is also bad (but less than government), best "censorship" that exist is market. Company releases content/product and people who don't like don't buy.

Mr Puggsly said:
That's good, I hate getting painful erections while playing video games.

I think its kinda funny theyre trying to make entertainment like games and movies less sexual, yet its easier than ever to find videos of girls getting fucked and fisted in every hole. Im just not sure what the goal is. The same audience playing games is also watching porn. Its like there is a fear of these things mixing, a dangerous alliance.

I remember the time on PS1 there were official releases of porn for the console. Or in PSVita that we have UMD porn.

ArchangelMadzz said:
That's a very important update.

This entire thread is an example of our age of outrage before facts.

No one should have a problem with this.

Everyone should have a problem with all form of censorship.

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Your post is beyond crazy , you are comparing nazi censorship to oposition to Sony not wanting garbage underage shit content on their platforms. You the Ones that want to censor Sony , demanding them to put this type  of content on their consoles... You all  free to buy a Xbox, switch or go to Steam to see your porn teenager japanese school games... 

Sony had this type of content and they are pressured to change, so the censorship would be coming from your field.

He is not comparing it to Sony. He is saying that having government censorship instead of company is bad, and that nazi/korea censorship is government level where everyone on those countries have no option instead of company policy that you can choose not to buy.

eastcoastrider said:

Just because a country has a low crime rate does not mean they have a low molestation or an unusually high percentage of the population has an attraction to physically mature females with a childs face.  Incest molesting sexual abuse is one of the most under reported crimes their are, obvious you don't have a daughter or you would be a little more concerned about exciting weird fantasies.

I have a daughter, thanks for your judgmental ignorance.

The country have low crime, including pedophilia. They do have a lot of fetiche for woman that look like teen, but they harm no child in doing that.

HoangNhatAnh said:

Again, this is Japan, many 18 years old girls in Asia look like Marie Rose, especially in Viet Nam, China, Japan, North/South Korea. Koei Tecmo is from Japan, you know :))

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

The devs are still able to release their game, this isn't on a government level. If Sony don't want it on their platform that's perfectly up to them and they shouldn't be forced to have any game (especially one with sexual depictions of children) on their platform. 

People who don't like it will go somewhere else and get that business. Free market etc.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

I have no idea why people get so offended by pixels to the point to forfeit freedom over it.

Yep, I really don't like the idea of a government deciding for everyone even on almost universal concepts, so taste/opinion is a point where that is totally unacceptable.

I'm very against law in general. Law should be minimal and simple, covering basic human rights, everything else is to be agreed between people. Companies censoring is also bad (but less than government), best "censorship" that exist is market. Company releases content/product and people who don't like don't buy.

I remember the time on PS1 there were official releases of porn for the console. Or in PSVita that we have UMD porn.

Everyone should have a problem with all form of censorship.

Sony had this type of content and they are pressured to change, so the censorship would be coming from your field.

He is not comparing it to Sony. He is saying that having government censorship instead of company is bad, and that nazi/korea censorship is government level where everyone on those countries have no option instead of company policy that you can choose not to buy.

I have a daughter, thanks for your judgmental ignorance.

The country have low crime, including pedophilia. They do have a lot of fetiche for woman that look like teen, but they harm no child in doing that.

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

The devs are still able to release their game, this isn't on a government level. If Sony don't want it on their platform that's perfectly up to them and they shouldn't be forced to have any game (especially one with sexual depictions of children) on their platform. 

People who don't like it will go somewhere else and get that business. Free market etc.

Yes it is true, still don't void right of people of complaining about it.



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DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

The devs are still able to release their game, this isn't on a government level. If Sony don't want it on their platform that's perfectly up to them and they shouldn't be forced to have any game (especially one with sexual depictions of children) on their platform. 

People who don't like it will go somewhere else and get that business. Free market etc.

Yes it is true, still don't void right of people of complaining about it.

People have the right to complain about whatever they want to, that's our world.

Doesn't mean I don't think it's weird that people complain about a company not allowing sexual games featuring kids (underaged characters) on their platform.



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Kanemaru said:
shikamaru317 said:

Sony to crack down on sexually explicit PlayStation games

Yeah, sure.. Censoring games will definitely make the world a better place and remove all form of violence... There are so much sexually explicit stuffs everywhere else but, no, it's just video games that are responsible!

And btw, slicing open innocent people in the most gore way possible is okay. While a cute girl in a bikini can provoke armageddon... And since when sexuality is degrading for women??? OMG, how can ppl be so stupid in 2019???

Those freaking feminists just want an excuse to screw with people, that's it. The most shameless part is the fact some other people actually care about what those freaking biatches say. I'm so close to sell back my PS4 cuz it makes me sick to get a console made by those freaking hypocrit sheeps.

One thing is for sure, I won't buy the PS5 if they stick with that insulting policy. Period!!

If you read the article, it's largely about preventing lawsuits....not removing all forms of violence.



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HoangNhatAnh said:
twintail said:

This game was banned by multiple western countries before Sony even did anything (and most likely why Sony decided to stop the release)

Besides, the game didn't even have a finalised Western release date from what I could gather, so who knows when it would have finally released.

In AU/EU? So how about NA? Also, Omega Labyrinth Z was expected to release in the West in Spring 2018 but then it was delayed and publisher PQube announced that it's localization has been cancelled. Yeah, even in early 2018, but Sony is definitely innocent in this case/s

Spring 2018 is not a finalised release date, as in a specific date. The ESRB rating was not even published until towards the latter half of Spring.

And put your sarcasm aside because we have already established that Sony banned the game, so your comment is somewhat pointless.

Nevertheless, the Sony policy is to have the games censor content for release. This isn't what happened with OL2.

DonFerrari said:
eastcoastrider said:

Just because a country has a low crime rate does not mean they have a low molestation or an unusually high percentage of the population has an attraction to physically mature females with a childs face.  Incest molesting sexual abuse is one of the most under reported crimes their are, obvious you don't have a daughter or you would be a little more concerned about exciting weird fantasies.

I have a daughter, thanks for your judgmental ignorance.

The country have low crime, including pedophilia. They do have a lot of fetiche for woman that look like teen, but they harm no child in doing that.

HoangNhatAnh said:

Again, this is Japan, many 18 years old girls in Asia look like Marie Rose, especially in Viet Nam, China, Japan, North/South Korea. Koei Tecmo is from Japan, you know :))

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

This seems somewhat disingenuous. There have been reports of underage girls working in night clubs brothels etc. The creator of Kenshin was only given a sub $2000 fine for being in possession of child porn. Recently, a father who raped his own daughter twice, was found not guilty even though the court said that he did commit the sexual abuse.

Sex crimes related to minors happen in Japan. They just go undocumented for the most part. Also, crime is on the rise in the country. This is anecdotal but I am in contact with Japanese people every day and they all share the same opinion that Japan is not nearly as safe as non-Japanese make it out to be. But this does depend on where about you live in the country.



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DonFerrari said: 
HoangNhatAnh said:

Again, this is Japan, many 18 years old girls in Asia look like Marie Rose, especially in Viet Nam, China, Japan, North/South Korea. Koei Tecmo is from Japan, you know :))

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

That's why there is no reason to censor it yet Sony still did it and their fans still defend them no matter what. They also forget 1 thing: Sony was from Japan 

twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

In AU/EU? So how about NA? Also, Omega Labyrinth Z was expected to release in the West in Spring 2018 but then it was delayed and publisher PQube announced that it's localization has been cancelled. Yeah, even in early 2018, but Sony is definitely innocent in this case/s

Spring 2018 is not a finalised release date, as in a specific date. The ESRB rating was not even published until towards the latter half of Spring.

And put your sarcasm aside because we have already established that Sony banned the game, so your comment is somewhat pointless.

Nevertheless, the Sony policy is to have the games censor content for release. This isn't what happened with OL2.

Yeah, so ban the game instead censoring it, right? No wonder why the next game is Switch only:

https://nintendoeverything.com/omega-labyrinth-life-announced-for-switch/

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HoangNhatAnh said:
twintail said:

Spring 2018 is not a finalised release date, as in a specific date. The ESRB rating was not even published until towards the latter half of Spring.

And put your sarcasm aside because we have already established that Sony banned the game, so your comment is somewhat pointless.

Nevertheless, the Sony policy is to have the games censor content for release. This isn't what happened with OL2.

Yeah, so ban the game instead censoring it, right? No wonder why the next game is Switch only:

https://nintendoeverything.com/omega-labyrinth-life-announced-for-switch/

Yes, correct, because their policy wasn't in effect hence why not the censoring route.

Good on them for finding another platform. That's the sensible thing to do i suppose.



twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, so ban the game instead censoring it, right? No wonder why the next game is Switch only:

https://nintendoeverything.com/omega-labyrinth-life-announced-for-switch/

Yes, correct, because their policy wasn't in effect hence why not the censoring route.

Good on them for finding another platform. That's the sensible thing to do i suppose.

Sure, if you said so, lol



o_O.Q said:
vivster said:
Welp, this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards making inappropriate comments and completely reaffirming Sony's decision. Isn't it nice how society works?

It will certainly an interesting subject to future scholars how the sexual liberation of the 20th century will be completely undone by the 21st century.

you missed the most relevant part - that the sexual revolution will be undone by feminists... you know... the people who are supposed to be advocating for the freedom of women?

"this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards"

what is a neckbeard?

Feminists aren't really the issue. It's all on society and the ridiculous sense of shame. Twitter storms of 1000 people are more important than what millions of silent people think. It's that society completely jumped on the PC bandwagon and circlejerked it to the ridiculous heights we have now. It's an infinite feedback loop like a drug. To get more social recognition you have to get more PC. It will be interesting at which point we will crash into the ceiling. My guess is porn. It's too big and too important.

Neckbeards is a derogatory term for mostly incel people on the internet who speak with self perceived intellectual authority on every topic and usually lean towards misogynism.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes it is true, still don't void right of people of complaining about it.

People have the right to complain about whatever they want to, that's our world.

Doesn't mean I don't think it's weird that people complain about a company not allowing sexual games featuring kids (underaged characters) on their platform.

teenagers aren't kid, and pixels aren't people.

twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

In AU/EU? So how about NA? Also, Omega Labyrinth Z was expected to release in the West in Spring 2018 but then it was delayed and publisher PQube announced that it's localization has been cancelled. Yeah, even in early 2018, but Sony is definitely innocent in this case/s

Spring 2018 is not a finalised release date, as in a specific date. The ESRB rating was not even published until towards the latter half of Spring.

And put your sarcasm aside because we have already established that Sony banned the game, so your comment is somewhat pointless.

Nevertheless, the Sony policy is to have the games censor content for release. This isn't what happened with OL2.

DonFerrari said:

I have a daughter, thanks for your judgmental ignorance.

The country have low crime, including pedophilia. They do have a lot of fetiche for woman that look like teen, but they harm no child in doing that.

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

This seems somewhat disingenuous. There have been reports of underage girls working in night clubs brothels etc. The creator of Kenshin was only given a sub $2000 fine for being in possession of child porn. Recently, a father who raped his own daughter twice, was found not guilty even though the court said that he did commit the sexual abuse.

Sex crimes related to minors happen in Japan. They just go undocumented for the most part. Also, crime is on the rise in the country. This is anecdotal but I am in contact with Japanese people every day and they all share the same opinion that Japan is not nearly as safe as non-Japanese make it out to be. But this does depend on where about you live in the country.

Have I claimed japan have no violence, rape or pedophilia? Nope, I claimed Japan have very low crime rate which include them. So the presence of these games aren't really what is harming kids in Japan or elsewhere.

One could even claim that is better that there are pixel porn with looks of under age people than real child porn, because people that like this type of material will go to get it, so the first one at least doesn't harm any child. Also as I said, PS is a closed environment so every purchase have an account and it certainly can be traced to a real person if police wants. So they can have all people that buy this material followed closely and arrest him as soon as he go a toe ahead of what is lawful.

HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said: 

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

That's why there is no reason to censor it yet Sony still did it and their fans still defend them no matter what. They also forget 1 thing: Sony was from Japan 

twintail said:

Spring 2018 is not a finalised release date, as in a specific date. The ESRB rating was not even published until towards the latter half of Spring.

And put your sarcasm aside because we have already established that Sony banned the game, so your comment is somewhat pointless.

Nevertheless, the Sony policy is to have the games censor content for release. This isn't what happened with OL2.

Yeah, so ban the game instead censoring it, right? No wonder why the next game is Switch only:

https://nintendoeverything.com/omega-labyrinth-life-announced-for-switch/

Claiming moral high ground make it very easy for people to defend things.

vivster said:
o_O.Q said:

you missed the most relevant part - that the sexual revolution will be undone by feminists... you know... the people who are supposed to be advocating for the freedom of women?

"this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards"

what is a neckbeard?

Feminists aren't really the issue. It's all on society and the ridiculous sense of shame. Twitter storms of 1000 people are more important than what millions of silent people think. It's that society completely jumped on the PC bandwagon and circlejerked it to the ridiculous heights we have now. It's an infinite feedback loop like a drug. To get more social recognition you have to get more PC. It will be interesting at which point we will crash into the ceiling. My guess is porn. It's too big and too important.

Neckbeards is a derogatory term for mostly incel people on the internet who speak with self perceived intellectual authority on every topic and usually lean towards misogynism.

Well the "get woke go broke" is still true, it have happen to comics a lot of times, so depending on how much Sony decides to put under censorship that will certainly bite then on the but.



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