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ArchangelMadzz said:
Ganoncrotch said:

appreciate you letting us know what we can and cannot raise our concerns over the entertainment we are fans over.

I hope you're aware of using "this entire thread" and then adding this post to the thread.

If your entertainment is sexually explicit games with under-aged characters then I have some concerns of my own. 

Your concerns are literally no concern of mine, just keep that in mind. I come from a country where the church is recently after unearthing 3 mass graves of abused children. One contained upwards of 800 kids and they refuse to share death records unless they can receive exemptions from prosecution for them... But aye you worry yourself about the perceived age of the cat girl in the pinball game I play, I would just rather spend concern where there's a reason to.

Still though, you don't think this thread should exist so I would imagine you'll not be posting a reply (or at least a one related to my post) so I'll leave it at that with you. 



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twintail said:
shikamaru317 said:

I could show you pictures of adult women with a similar body type to Marie Rose. Alicia Vikander for one, and she is 30. Petite does not equal young. 

Ailcia Vikander doesn't look underage. I never referenced Marie Rose as petite. So, I stand by my previous comment. 

HoangNhatAnh said:

Then why that scene was censored on ps4 only? And then a lot people complained and only US PS4 ver was removed, wow, facepalm. 

Europe is Sony land, majority of PS fans there will eat anything from Sony and ps4 while in US, Sony have to compete with Xbox and partly 

You do realise that the Sony policy affects all regions including Japan? You do realise that DMC5 was not 'censored' in Japan?

So, if Sony's policy includes Japan but Japan didn't get censored, how do you know it was Sony and not a Capcom mishap?

Yeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, heh



twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Then why that scene was censored on ps4 only? And then a lot people complained and only US PS4 ver was removed, wow, facepalm. 

Europe is Sony land, majority of PS fans there will eat anything from Sony and ps4 while in US, Sony have to compete with Xbox and partly 

You do realise that the Sony policy affects all regions including Japan? You do realise that DMC5 was not 'censored' in Japan?

So, if Sony's policy includes Japan but Japan didn't get censored, how do you know it was Sony and not a Capcom mishap?

Funny how this mistake only happens in the West and because some ridiculous unknown reason, only on ps4 in the West, poor them/s

twintail said:

You do realise that the Sony policy affects all regions including Japan? You do realise that DMC5 was not 'censored' in Japan?

So, if Sony's policy includes Japan but Japan didn't get censored, how do you know it was Sony and not a Capcom mishap?

Yeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, hehYeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, hehYeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, heh. Only censor game with loli, hm, clearly DOAX3 are for children with loli/s

Immersiveunreality said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Then why that scene was censored on ps4 only? And then a lot people complained and only US PS4 ver was removed, wow, facepalm. 

Europe is Sony land, majority of PS fans there will eat anything from Sony and ps4 while in US, Sony have to compete with Xbox and partly Nintendo

Does Sony deserve all the negative focus because they just had 1 more thing censored compared to the others?

Well, i thought they only censor JP loli games? Where is DOAX3?

Hiku said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Then why that scene was censored on ps4 only

I've answered that many times.
You even cited it in your previous post.

Why do patches for games on different systems some times differ?
The answer is not that it's always deliberate on the orders of the console manufacturer.

HoangNhatAnh said:
And then a lot people complained and only US PS4 ver was removed, wow, facepalm. 

Europe is Sony land, majority of PS fans there will eat anything from Sony and ps4 while in US, Sony have to compete with Xbox and partly Nintendo.

First of all, do not make generalizations like "the majority of the fans of *insert group* will eat anything from *insert company*". Especially when you have no means to back them up.

Secondly, if Sony are worried about losing PS4 owners over this, then they stand to lose the most in EU.

Try using your generalization with Xbox.
They dominated US last generation, so US Xbox fans "will just eat anything from MS", right?
No, there was a massive shift of Xbox players in the US going to PS4 this generation, after MS's DRM policies, etc.

If Sony assessed that they stand to lose customers over this, it would seem very unlikely that they'd willingly lose customers in Europe, especially over a silly bodypart that is not important to them.

"Why do patches for games on different systems some times differ?
The answer is not that it's always deliberate on the orders of the console manufacturer."

And censor only for ps4 in the west in the first place, quite hilarious, isn't it?

"If Sony assessed that they stand to lose customers over this, it would seem very unlikely that they'd willingly lose customers in Europe, especially over a silly bodypart that is not important to them."

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/will-sony-continuing-censorship-practices-effect-your-ps5-purchase.1473890/

Don't think so, look at this site, well, only a small fish, they clearly don't care too much about what Sony is doing 

"They dominated US last generation, so US Xbox fans "will just eat anything from MS", right?
No, there was a massive shift of Xbox players in the US going to PS4 this generation, after MS's DRM policies, etc."

If Xbox 1 have many Japan exclusives like ps4 then you would have a point, compared to 360, the amount of JP games on XB1 are a lot worse



SpokenTruth said:

..........

LivingMetal said:

1). Are you saying slavery was never a problem?  2). Are you saying character depicted in ways that do not favor your personal criteria is slavery?  I express my maturity by giving people freedom of choice, me being tolerant of that choice, and me working on common grounds while agreeing to disagree to work to a general greater resolution.  3). I don't get self-righteous in the name of "maturity."

1). For many societies in the past, they didn't consider it a problem.  It wasn't morally wrong to them.  We obviously know better now.  We have matured as a society.

2). Oh, no.  Not at all.  There is not correlation I'm trying to draw between the two other than things in the past that were morally acceptable are later recognized as wrong or even reprehensible.

3). You are confusing personal maturity with social maturity.  What is acceptable and moral in any given society is a wide range individually but as a whole group...that's the social morality, social norms and customs. See point 1 above.

LivingMetal said:

Did YOU read my post?  This type of reasoning is NOT faulty when applied to something that is NOT faulty to begin with, creative freedom and consumer choice.  And WHO are you to apply you're preferences of the acceptance of certain societal norms and customs on everyone else?  That's FAULTY.

I never said "creative freedom and consumer choice" were faulty.  I said that "just because something in the past was acceptable means it should be acceptable today" is faulty. 

And it's not me pushing my preferences on anyone.  Sony isn't changing policy because I told them to.  It's society doing that. Societies change over time. What was once acceptable can become unacceptable - and vice versa.  In fact, I'd say far more things have been acceptable over the years than unacceptable.

DEAD WRONG.  I was saying that creative freedom and consumer choice is not faulty.  That was my context from the very beginning, and it still is.  You're the one who misinterpreted my original post and came up with such an asinine example of slavery that had NOTHING to do with it.  You made a mistake, and you were called out on it.  Then, you attempted to sound intelligence by backing peddling on that mistake.  But all you're doing is insulting our intelligence.  So man up to your mistake as a display of the maturity that you preach.  Own it.  And guess what society is made of..... PEOPLE!  People such as "you" and "I" are the ones who are influencing Sony to change their policy.  So in principle, you are pushing your preferences on others.  So let me reiterate that attempting to sound intelligent when your wrong does nothing to further the "MAtURitY Of soCIetY." Next time you say something, better make sure it lives up to your handle.



HoangNhatAnh said:
twintail said:

You do realise that the Sony policy affects all regions including Japan? You do realise that DMC5 was not 'censored' in Japan?

So, if Sony's policy includes Japan but Japan didn't get censored, how do you know it was Sony and not a Capcom mishap?

Funny how this mistake only happens in the West and because some ridiculous unknown reason, only on ps4 in the West, poor them/s

twintail said:

You do realise that the Sony policy affects all regions including Japan? You do realise that DMC5 was not 'censored' in Japan?

So, if Sony's policy includes Japan but Japan didn't get censored, how do you know it was Sony and not a Capcom mishap?

Yeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, hehYeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, hehYeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, heh. Only censor game with loli, hm, clearly DOAX3 are for children with loli/s

Immersiveunreality said:

Does Sony deserve all the negative focus because they just had 1 more thing censored compared to the others?

Well, i thought they only censor JP loli games? Where is DOAX3?

Hiku said:

I've answered that many times.
You even cited it in your previous post.

Why do patches for games on different systems some times differ?
The answer is not that it's always deliberate on the orders of the console manufacturer.

HoangNhatAnh said:
And then a lot people complained and only US PS4 ver was removed, wow, facepalm. 

Europe is Sony land, majority of PS fans there will eat anything from Sony and ps4 while in US, Sony have to compete with Xbox and partly Nintendo.

First of all, do not make generalizations like "the majority of the fans of *insert group* will eat anything from *insert company*". Especially when you have no means to back them up.

Secondly, if Sony are worried about losing PS4 owners over this, then they stand to lose the most in EU.

Try using your generalization with Xbox.
They dominated US last generation, so US Xbox fans "will just eat anything from MS", right?
No, there was a massive shift of Xbox players in the US going to PS4 this generation, after MS's DRM policies, etc.

If Sony assessed that they stand to lose customers over this, it would seem very unlikely that they'd willingly lose customers in Europe, especially over a silly bodypart that is not important to them.

Bolded: I do not really understand the question but if you meant to ask why they censor DOA then that might have something to do with characters that are underage looking? That would be pretty logical no?



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twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, heh

EU/ AUS are considered the West. Doesn't change the fact that every game before this was censored in Japan, DMC5 wasn't.

Thanks for playing though.

Every game? Don't know about that. Mary Skelter 2 didn't get censored in Japan



Immersiveunreality said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Funny how this mistake only happens in the West and because some ridiculous unknown reason, only on ps4 in the West, poor them/s

Yeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, hehYeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, hehYeah, only on ps4 on the West, and now is EU/AU, nice effort, heh. Only censor game with loli, hm, clearly DOAX3 are for children with loli/s

Well, i thought they only censor JP loli games? Where is DOAX3?

Bolded: I do not really understand the question but if you meant to ask why they censor DOA then that might have something to do with characters that are underage looking? That would be pretty logical no?

What character?



HoangNhatAnh said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Bolded: I do not really understand the question but if you meant to ask why they censor DOA then that might have something to do with characters that are underage looking? That would be pretty logical no?

What character?

To be honest, most of them look underage. :p

So it is still logical they want to censor some items that make it possible to see upskirts on them and that does enhance boobmovement.



I don't think censorship is good in most cases. In this instance, it would seem to be a bad case of censorship, since it's to protect no one.



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HoangNhatAnh said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Bolded: I do not really understand the question but if you meant to ask why they censor DOA then that might have something to do with characters that are underage looking? That would be pretty logical no?

What character?

Marie Rose, probably. She's the smallest character in the series.

I think it's pretty clear that DOA was censored due to people like Anita Sarkeesian and the poisonous pandering SJW hivemind though, and not due to a "childlike" character.