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Interesting info.

With the 8 core Zen 2 CPU, the console won't be limited in that front like the actual ones have, and Navi should give it a nice boost over the Pro and X consoles.

The SSD part is interesting as, with both Zen 2 and Navi supporting PCIe 4.0, they may have gone with an NVMe drive that takes advantage of the extra bandwidth to get those results. But, at the same time, such solution could prevent users from removing the base storage unit for a new one.

Also, well, at least now we know why they're not going to E3, because they've nothing new to show for PS4.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Trumpstyle said:

But it's correct, HDDs are completely useless, you're suppose to know stuff. Try play World of warcraft on HDDs, its not possible. You get loading times that are between 1-2 minutes and the game lags for several minutes after, this with the fastest HDD that exist, western digital black desktop mechanical drive. While on a ssd the game will load in 5 seconds and no lag whatsoever after.

I said 2 months ago it's 100% certain that the next-gen consoles will have a SSD or NVMe drive (1TB) and I was correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmGtb24aumA

Proves my point, HDD is useless.

Too expensive, they won't do that. Even a 1 TB SSD costs about twice what a 2TB HDD would cost. It's still too soon for SSD in consoles. A Mid-gen upgrade could use them, though, but not the OG in 2020.

Probably it's not an SSD form but a dedicated nand flash memory soldered into the motherboard and it will be small size memory and only transferring some small data and compress data. It will be possible and especially for console because all games will be made base on this standard so all games on PS5 will utilize this.  And also it will not be expensive like your guess because it will just be small size (probably 32 or 64 to 128 GB flash memory ). 

Last edited by HollyGamer - on 16 April 2019

CGI-Quality said:

CPU: Zen 2 eight to twelve core @ 3GHz
GPU: Navi
RAM:16GB G6 (could use G5X, but I doubt it)
HDD: 4TB (Confirmed SSD, will likely be 1-2TB)

My original prediction with the updated SSD info (I was always more on shaky ground regarding that). I'm still confident in 16GB of G6, but I can see as high as 24. CPU/GPU were always obvious and clocks will be the determining factors there.

I can agree with your spec but for the SSD probably it's not a fully SSD but more of nand flash drive/memory that soldered into the motherboard and it will using be small size memory (64 to 128 GB)  and only transferring some small data and compress data (necessary data). What the important thing is all games will be fully utilize this made with SSD in mind so it will possible to be more faster than normal PC SSD application (because until this day none PC games and application/software made with SSD in mind ). 



Why Mark Cerny are confident when he Said "it will be more faster then normal SSD on PC today's standard (including NVMe )",  because all application/ software that made on PC until today never made with SSD in mind. Means PS5 games and software will be a new standard for next gen games to be made with SSD in mind.

As PC gamer who already using SSD i am glad that we will finally able to utilize SSD and have some benefit to have one , that's why console is very important to gaming Industries as a whole. Because we are stuck on HDD standar for a long time. If console start to make one , PC will follow .



CGI-Quality said:

CPU: Zen 2 eight to twelve core @ 3GHz
GPU: Navi
RAM:16GB G6 (could use G5X, but I doubt it)
HDD: 4TB (Confirmed SSD, will likely be 1-2TB)

My original prediction with the updated SSD info (I was always more on shaky ground regarding that). I'm still confident in 16GB of G6, but I can see as high as 24. CPU/GPU were always obvious and clocks will be the determining factors there.

We had 3 new rumors from Jason Schreier, french leak and Brad sams since I made my prediction in the same thread, here's my updated one.

Xbox two (Lockhart)
CPU: Zen2 8 cores, 16 threads, 2,4 ghz
GPU: Navi 4TF
Memory: 12GB Gddr6 Ram, 192-bit bus, 336 GB/s Bandwidth
Storage: 1TB NVMe drive (Will be disc-less)
Launch: Fall 2020 250-300$

Xbox two+ (Anaconda)
CPU: Zen2 8 cores, 16 threads, 2,8 ghz
GPU: Navi 12TF, 80CU with 1200 Mhz clock
Memory: 16GB Gddr6 Ram, 256-bit bus, 448 GB/s Bandwidth
Storage: 1TB NVMe drive
Launch: Fall 2020 400$

Playstation 5
CPU: Zen2 8 cores, 16 threads, 2,8 ghz
GPU: Navi 12TF, 80CU with 1200 Mhz clock
Memory: 16GB Gddr6 Ram, 256-bit bus, 448 GB/s Bandwidth
Storage: 1TB NVMe drive
Launch: Fall 2020 400$

Basically I don't think Microsoft is doing a premium console anymore based on information from the French leak and Brad sams, it will be a cheap 1080p Disc-less console for 250-300$ and a mainstream console for 400$. PS5 and Xbox two+ (anaconda) will probably be identical in spec.

400$ might sounds cheap but here's my build:

Soc/Apu = 100$
Memory = 70$
Nvme drive = 50$
Rest = 150$
Total = 370$

Prices are based on speculation.

Edit: Changed release date on PS5 from Spring 2020 to Fall 2020

Last edited by Trumpstyle - on 17 April 2019

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HollyGamer said:

Why Mark Cerny are confident when he Said "it will be more faster then normal SSD on PC today's standard (including NVMe )",  because all application/ software that made on PC until today never made with SSD in mind. Means PS5 games and software will be a new standard for next gen games to be made with SSD in mind.

As PC gamer who already using SSD i am glad that we will finally able to utilize SSD and have some benefit to have one , that's why console is very important to gaming Industries as a whole. Because we are stuck on HDD standar for a long time. If console start to make one , PC will follow .

We have been able to use SSD if we chose to replace the stock HDD.  But yeah it will be good to have SSD or SSD like tech as standard.



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how powerful is the gpu in this thing going to be compared to gtx1080?



dharh said:
HollyGamer said:

Why Mark Cerny are confident when he Said "it will be more faster then normal SSD on PC today's standard (including NVMe )",  because all application/ software that made on PC until today never made with SSD in mind. Means PS5 games and software will be a new standard for next gen games to be made with SSD in mind.

As PC gamer who already using SSD i am glad that we will finally able to utilize SSD and have some benefit to have one , that's why console is very important to gaming Industries as a whole. Because we are stuck on HDD standar for a long time. If console start to make one , PC will follow .

We have been able to use SSD if we chose to replace the stock HDD.  But yeah it will be good to have SSD or SSD like tech as standard.

Agree with u, but what i mean is  not at the  software level that we can utilize it efficiently.  Even linux and Windows OS are not made with this standard . Hell even modern hardware like Intel and AMD just announced recently they are now  supporting SSD in mind. So until this day none of the program we had optimize to utilize SSD on PC yet. 

With this standard probably in the future all games will be fully supporting SSD including games/software on PC. 



Sounds good so far. Well, I'm a bit skeptical about the SSD part because of what is still a fairly painful capacity-price ratio, but it's not terrible anymore and it's only going to get better.



o_O.Q said:
how powerful is the gpu in this thing going to be compared to gtx1080?

We don't know yet , but probably it will be safe to say at least it will be equal. Because Sony are aiming 4K at 60 frames/ second . To run modern graphic games at that quality and performance it need at least GTX 1080 or Vega 64 level or even above (GTX 1080 Ti).