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Australian Politics Thread - LNP government returned. McDonalds pants-shitter returned as PM.

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How are you feeling about the next three years for Australia?

Pessimistic 1 14.29%
 
Optimistic 1 14.29%
 
Ecstatic 2 28.57%
 
In a constant state of disbelief 3 42.86%
 
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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Australia is only one of a few nations that forces compulsory voting. How can you call it a democratic society if you impose compulsory voting? People should have the freedom to decide whether or not they want to vote or not like they do in most nations around the world.

People do have the freedom to decide whether they actually vote or not, there is no punishment for spoiling your ballot and having it not counted. You are simply obligated to go to a polling place and have your name checked off; or do the same through postal voting.

In most countries that don't have compulsory voting, the vast majority of those who do vote are those with money, and the poor and minorities are excluded to a great extent. I'd say that is far less democratic. 

Australia's system is one of the most democratic in the world (apart from those with direct democracy like Switzerland). We in Australia should defend our current system no matter what, everyone's voices are definitely heard, regardless of whether I actually like the outcome or not. 

fatslob-:O said:
Anyone rethinking "compulsory voting" yet ?

Absolutely not. Voting is something one is obligated to do as a citizen of the country. 



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Australia is only one of a few nations that forces compulsory voting. How can you call it a democratic society if you impose compulsory voting? People should have the freedom to decide whether or not they want to vote or not like they do in most nations around the world.

fatslob-:O said:
Anyone rethinking "compulsory voting" yet ?

What you fail to realise is that removing compulsory voting opens a whole new door of problems, such as imposing rules/tricks that allow one particular side to not vote. Things such as removing ballot stations in poorer areas, so they have to queue up for longer, perhaps hours! What about sending out flyers saying that one side votes one day and the other side votes the day after the election? Voter suppression? Poll tax?

Don't think it will happen? Those examples have already happened in the US.

No, compulsory voting is DEFINITELY preferred, but if you don't want to vote, just donkey vote. It's still much better than the latter.



I believe in voluntary voting, people should vote only if they want to vote. I also believe imposing a poll tax would be a great idea.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
I believe in voluntary voting, people should vote only if they want to vote. I also believe imposing a poll tax would be a great idea.

Under Australia's system this is already a thing. You don't actually have to make a vote, you simply have to have your name ticked off the roll.

A poll tax is a terrible idea and a step away from fascism, if you think disenfranchising the poor is a great idea I honestly don't think any logical argument will get through to you.



Every time I see the thread title I think someone ate McDonald's and shit their pants.



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sethnintendo said:

Every time I see the thread title I think someone ate McDonald's and shit their pants.

Close enough, current PM Scott Morrison shit his pants at a McDonalds in 1997 following his team's loss in the rugby grand final. The Maccas in question even has plaques set up to commemorate it now.



https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/engadine-maccas-plaque-doo-doo-ass/



Lol wow that's the best memorial I've ever seen.  Thought it was a guy with last name McDonald that shit his pants a lot won PM.  Funny that McDonald's allowed that plaque on their lot.  Hopefully there is a historical marker sign on the side of road pointing to the plaque.

Last edited by sethnintendo - on 21 May 2019

Compulsory voting isn't the issue, the inconvenience of voting is. There got to be a better way that having to travel to some voting place or having to send a letter. There should be either an online opportunity or someone coming to you and collecting the vote. For example, having people who go to work places and then collect the votes weeks before the election.



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vivster said:

Compulsory voting isn't the issue, the inconvenience of voting is. There got to be a better way that having to travel to some voting place or having to send a letter. There should be either an online opportunity or someone coming to you and collecting the vote. For example, having people who go to work places and then collect the votes weeks before the election.

Online can be tampered with, and generally doesn't leave a paper trail compared to...paper.

Voting booths provide a sense of isolation and security when filling one's ballot out, as opposed to say...a workplace, where the AEC doesn't keep watch, and employers or other employees could pressure the voter. That's why there are laws stating that political ads and volunteers must remain x metres away from an AEC voting booth.

Yes, compulsory voting can be inconvenient, but there is a degree of leniency here, because everyone is expected to do it. It certainly beats the alternatives, that are open to voter suppression, or vote tampering.



RingoGaSuki said:
sethnintendo said:

Every time I see the thread title I think someone ate McDonald's and shit their pants.

Close enough, current PM Scott Morrison shit his pants at a McDonalds in 1997 following his team's loss in the rugby grand final. The Maccas in question even has plaques set up to commemorate it now.



https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/engadine-maccas-plaque-doo-doo-ass/

The question is...did Morrison do it as a result of Cronulla's loss, or because of a bad Big Mac or something?

These are the questions that our media should be asking!