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thismeintiel said:
KLAMarine said:

Damn, Rey being powerful would have felt more satisfying if she started from a place of weakness. She was hyper-capable from the very beginning however.

Rey's more than a strong female, she's hyper-capable. That's not a good thing.

She's a typical Mary Sue. Considering they're bringing back Luke and Palpatine, instead of sticking with Rian Johnson's vision, just shows they know they fucked up. That and they have no vision of their own. This will probably be fan service to the millionth degree. I'm skipping.

There were 99 other problems with the film imo, and I don't think anyone can confidently pinpoint any one particular reason for a course correction in IX.

I don't like how Rey got so strong before training, but that was honestly one of the smallest issues I had with the film.
And I'd wager the issue people feel more strongly about is how they handled Luke, given that his character has such a long legacy.
But in TLJ, Luke who would even see the good in Darth Vader,

Spoiler!
considered butchering his nephew in his sleep as his FIRST choice. 

Emphasis on 'first'.
That's just not his character. I didn't buy it.
And then there was the map to Skywalker. But

Spoiler!

he didn't want to help out even when he heard that his best friend had been killed.

There were so many issues I had with that film, I'd have to write an essay to go through half of them.

And even if they revive

Spoiler!
Luke

that doesn't necessarily mean J.J. Abrams disagrees with Rian Johnson's vission of Luke (although I would hope it does). It could also be because of something like Leia's actor dying, and they originally planned to have her play an important role at the end. But now they need a different character to fill that spot.

Last edited by Hiku - on 12 April 2019

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Tagging, will watch when I finish work



Hiku said:


I'm more curious about Palpatine's laugh. Apparently Ian McDiarmid (the actor who plays Palpatine) went out on stage after the teaser debuted.

You could say that bringing the Emperor is a good idea to end the Skywalker saga, but I also take it like an acknowledgement that they completely dropped the ball with the mediocre "villains" in those two movies.

KLAMarine said:

Damn, Rey being powerful would have felt more satisfying if she started from a place of weakness. She was hyper-capable from the very beginning however.

Rey's more than a strong female, she's hyper-capable. That's not a good thing.

Rey's character completely mocked the whole idea of a hero improving, training, and learning to become a Jedi. The way Wonder Rey would just produce Jedi techniques out of thin air completely dismantled the tradition of the Jedi, which is the core of Star Wars.

Seems like they just wanted to make this Rey character look good in every aspect instead of focusing in creating her journey towards becoming great, completely disregarding what Star Wars is all about.



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*TLJ Spoiler*

AbbathTheGrim said:
Hiku said:


I'm more curious about Palpatine's laugh. Apparently Ian McDiarmid (the actor who plays Palpatine) went out on stage after the teaser debuted.

You could say that bringing the Emperor is a good idea to end the Skywalker saga, but I also take it like an acknowledgement that they completely dropped the ball with the mediocre "villains" in those two movies.

You mean the guy who was all-powerful, and could sense and connect two people from across different galaxies, but didn't notice a rusty lightsaber rattling right next to him? While hilariously screaming "He will never betray me!" as if that scene was supposed to be comedy relief?

Whatever gave you that idea? I thought he was great.

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Hiku said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

You could say that bringing the Emperor is a good idea to end the Skywalker saga, but I also take it like an acknowledgement that they completely dropped the ball with the mediocre "villains" in those two movies.

You mean the guy who was all-powerful, and could sense and connect two people from across different galaxies, but didn't notice a rusty lightsaber rattling right next to him? While screaming "He will never betray me!"

Whatever gave you that idea. I thought he was great.

Or Kylo Ren who senses Han Solo when he arrives to the Star Killer base from miles away but then can't sense him when he is 15 feet away on the bridge scene,



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My coworker was so excited over it that he wanted to share it with me. I pretended like I cared.



I'm...a bit worried. The fanfare bits just seem like retconning for fans' sake instead of moving forward with themes in TLJ.



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simek said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Sorry, I don't watch garbage feminist mary sue propaganda. Screw Disney for throwing out the integrity of the franchise.

Movie looks like crap already.

Im sorry i dont care about toxic masculinity and man who cant handle strong females. Get your self a confidence and open your mind. There is a life outside your Man Cave.  Anyway, i like the trailer, more a teaser.  Cant wait.

I'm all for strong characters. Male, female, whatever. But to say Rey is a strong character is ridiculous... Strong with the force maybe.



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Hiku said:
thismeintiel said:

She's a typical Mary Sue. Considering they're bringing back Luke and Palpatine, instead of sticking with Rian Johnson's vision, just shows they know they fucked up. That and they have no vision of their own. This will probably be fan service to the millionth degree. I'm skipping.

There were 99 other problems with the film imo, and I don't think anyone can confidently pinpoint any one particular reason for a course correction in IX.

I don't like how Rey got so strong before training, but that was honestly one of the smallest issues I had with the film.
And I'd wager the issue people feel more strongly about is how they handled Luke, given that his character has such a long legacy.
But in TLJ, Luke who would even see the good in Darth Vader,

Spoiler!
considered to butcher his nephew in his sleep as his FIRST choice. 

Emphasis on 'first'.
That's just not his character. I didn't buy it.
And then there was the map to Skywalker. But

Spoiler!

he didn't want to help out even when he heard that his best friend had been killed.

There were so many issues I had with that film, I'd have to write an essay to go through half of them.

And even if they revive

Spoiler!
Luke

that doesn't necessarily mean J.J. Abrams disagrees with Rian Johnson's vission of Luke (although I would hope it does). It could also be because of something like Leia's actor dying, and they originally planned to have her play an important role at the end. But now they need a different character to fill that spot.

That's it right there. The biggest issue!!! But riddled with a plethora of other issues, just like you said!!!

Also, bringing back Palpatine is not exciting for me. Unless it is a flashback or somehow a dark force ghost. Bringing him back just to get slaughtered by Rey would undo everything the original trilogy (well, even the prequels) established.



1doesnotsimply

It's a bit crazy how much I don't care.

With a lemon twist of contempt.

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