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I am really excited for this, and have massive regret that I wasted time reading the toxic comments.

Rey has proven to be a great character so far - well written and well acted. Star Wars has always allowed force-capable characters to become powerful very quickly. People bitching and whinging about Mary-Sue concerns must never have liked Star Wars, given Luke Skywalker was the biggest Mary-Sue of all.

*received a couple of hours of spiritual guidance in a jungle*

*crushes all enemies*



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starcraft said:
I am really excited for this, and have massive regret that I wasted time reading the toxic comments.

Rey has proven to be a great character so far - well written and well acted. Star Wars has always allowed force-capable characters to become powerful very quickly. People bitching and whinging about Mary-Sue concerns must never have liked Star Wars, given Luke Skywalker was the biggest Mary-Sue of all.

*received a couple of hours of spiritual guidance in a jungle*

*crushes all enemies*

...No.



You know what would be cool? If they made Rey to actually be a clone of Palpatine (obviously genetically modified to be female). That would partially explain a little bit how she is so good with the force without training.



The issue is Rey basically knew nothing of the force then suddenly is the force lol.

I can see why some men feel the way they do.

HOWEVER, man or woman, if the same plot was told with a man, I would feel the same way. How does this person have these abilities without any training?

That is the answer I am looking for in the third film. Hopefully they tell us,



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
The issue is Rey basically knew nothing of the force then suddenly is the force lol.

I can see why some men feel the way they do.

HOWEVER, man or woman, if the same plot was told with a man, I would feel the same way. How does this person have these abilities without any training?

That is the answer I am looking for in the third film. Hopefully they tell us,

Yeah a lot seem to forget that man AND woman share this opinion about her character,people just want better storytelling but get labelled sexist or toxic because of their gender and that is mildly ironic.

I hope they learned from the second film and took some feedback in a constructive way.



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simek said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Sorry, I don't watch garbage feminist mary sue propaganda. Screw Disney for throwing out the integrity of the franchise.

Movie looks like crap already.

Im sorry i dont care about toxic masculinity and man who cant handle strong females. Get your self a confidence and open your mind. There is a life outside your Man Cave.  Anyway, i like the trailer, more a teaser.  Cant wait.

There is a difference between what's a good witten female strong character and terrible writing all together starring a strong female character. Leya from the original triology, Ridley Scott from Alien, Wonder Woman hell even Scarlet Witch and Black Window are women in film who are pretty much universaly loved by men. Because they are strong female characters. They all developed as characters too, unlike Rey which is a litteral God all the time, without even having any real training (or weaknesses for that matter). 

Leya in Star Wars 8 who got blown up was exposed to over minus 200 degrees and a shit ton of radiation can fly in space using the force while unconsious. That's some serious awful writing just like the fact Rey is pretty much invincible and can take on masters of swordfighting in the fighting scene with Snoke. That's scene was choreographie was also hideous with weapons convieniently dissapearing.

But if you think that everyone who hates star wars 8 is a sexist, by all means. 

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forest-spirit said:
Last Jedi was a bit meh but certainly not bad enough to kill my hype for this one. Can't wait!

Pretty much me! 

OP: 
The comments in here are aweful lol.  "fandom" comments constant bickering about Disney/Feminists etc is just tragic and worth completely avoiding. People still talking about Rey being over powered as if that alone would ruin a franchise lol. Lightly enjoyed the first, disappointed in the second although it took brave steps in terms new structure and letting go of old tropes. Will give the benefit of the doubt to the third and the trailer looks great. I just hope that when they next approach another trilogy they truly distance themselves from the original in terms of timeline.



Rey might be Mary Sue-ish but that alone isn't a deal breaker to me. Lots of successful pop-culture series have had protagonists with flat character arches (Son Goku comes to mind, Aragorn perhaps as well).



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
Rey might be Mary Sue-ish but that alone isn't a deal breaker to me. Lots of successful pop-culture series have had protagonists with flat character arches (Son Goku comes to mind, Aragorn perhaps as well).

I agree with Aragorn yes but Son Goku had so much training to endure to become so strong although in Super he is kinda flat indeed.



Shadow1980 said:

I didn't have the time to offer my own views on the trailer as I had to leave for work shortly after I posted this thread, so...

Honestly, I'm excited. The trailer gave me goosebumps. And Lando's back! Of course, I was excited for every one of the new Star Wars movies as well. I saw all of them twice in theaters. I enjoyed all of them (even The Last Jedi, which I feel got a lot of undeserved hate from a vocal minority... and let's leave it at that, because I'm not interested in arguing about it anymore; I like the movie and that's that), and I've felt that they've been in every way better than the prequel trilogy. Better acting, better balancing between CGI and practical effects, better cinematography, etc. While nothing will ever beat the original trilogy for me, I've been thoroughly satisfied with how Disney has handled the films so far. Episode 9 will definitely be an opening weekend viewing for me.

Ohh no, we're not gonna leave it at that!

So you liked the movie? fine. So you think it got undeserved hate? Cool. To each its own I guess.

But trying to say that it was just a "vocal minority" who didn't like this movie is...  just...  no.