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Soundwave said:
If Rey is linked to Anakin like a reincarnated version of a Chosen One (which would hardly be the first time Star Wars has ripped off Buddhism and other eastern religious philosophy) ... then her having Force abilities without training would make sense.

As long as that reincarnation in some shape or form, keeps and retains, to an extent, memories of Anakin to at least allow her to remember techniques.

The problem that I have with the idea of Anakin's reincarnation is that he appears at the end of Ep 6 all happy with Obi-Wan and Yoda in ghost form, so I kind of find it cringy to imagine a reason why his recincarnation happened. Was he forced to reincarnate, perhaps by the Force itself? Like someone, the Emperor perhaps, trapped his spirit form in Rey's body to bring him back to life... to kick his ass for throwing him down that hole and betraying in front of Luke, or to try again where he failed in keeping him as his apprentice? Or maybe Anakin was like: "Being alive is cool, so let's give it a second go" and then he decided to reincarnate somehow, without telling Yoda or Yoda noticing? Maybe Yoda was silent or didn't matter to him to share that bit about Rey? My mind runs wild with this idea of reincarnation but I don't know, let's wait and see.

But I honestly feel like JJ and Co. don't give a fuck about Jedi training and they will just brush off the whole overpowered thing with Rey and they will just move forward.

I think I said this years ago when Ep 7 came out, I am fine with Rey being exceptional as long as they explain why she is exceptional and it is part of canon. We need to understand why she's breaking all those expectations of how things work and hopefully make her an exception because otherwise they are saying "fuck the Jedi and the Jedi training".



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The new trailer made me want to rewatch The Last Jedi and I actually liked it more this time than the first time I saw it, which raised my hype for episode IX a bit. It might not be a popular opinion (at least not on this site) but I'd place it slightly below VI with VII, IV and V being my #3, #2 and #1.



forest-spirit said:
The new trailer made me want to rewatch The Last Jedi and I actually liked it more this time than the first time I saw it, which raised my hype for episode IX a bit. It might not be a popular opinion (at least not on this site) but I'd place it slightly below VI with VII, IV and V being my #3, #2 and #1.

I'm in a similar boat as you.  The more I think about The Last Jedi after the fact the more I respect what it's trying.  And that's something I have a tougher time saying for any of the other Disney Star Wars movies released (thus far).



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Soundwave said:
If Rey is linked to Anakin like a reincarnated version of a Chosen One (which would hardly be the first time Star Wars has ripped off Buddhism and other eastern religious philosophy) ... then her having Force abilities without training would make sense.

Now you're grasping at straws to keep her being a strong woman character?

If noncanon fantasy needs to be used as an argument against the Mary Sue claim then im afraid it might be more factual she indeed is a Mary Sue,would be nice if they actually wrote her plot like she developed her strenghts so people would have liked her a bit more.

Nothing to do with genders btw,her character development is disliked evenly amongst all.



Immersiveunreality said:
Soundwave said:
If Rey is linked to Anakin like a reincarnated version of a Chosen One (which would hardly be the first time Star Wars has ripped off Buddhism and other eastern religious philosophy) ... then her having Force abilities without training would make sense.

Now you're grasping at straws to keep her being a strong woman character?

If noncanon fantasy needs to be used as an argument against the Mary Sue claim then im afraid it might be more factual she indeed is a Mary Sue,would be nice if they actually wrote her plot like she developed her strenghts so people would have liked her a bit more.

Nothing to do with genders btw,her character development is disliked evenly amongst all.

I think that's the direction the story is going though, JJ has said there's more to her parentage than what's in TLJ, but they will honor TLJ's interpretation as well. So my guess is she's born of the Force to a nobody mother (just like Anakin was) who ditched her on Jakku and ran off with Rey's drunken step-father. 

I've thought for a long time actually she is just like Anakin .... born directly from the Force. They are not like any other Jedi or Sith, those two are pure children of the Force and have special destinies.  

It also explains a lot of things like why Anakin's lightsaber specifically calls out for her. 

It also explains the "Rise of the Skywalker" title because I think Kylo is gonna die in the next one, so it has to refer to Rey. Skywalker bloodline = bloodline of the Force directly, so she has it, just like Anakin. 

I don't like the prequels, but all that sh*t is established as canon in Star Wars (Anakin's conception, the fact that the Force can basically will life into existence and has done so before, etc. etc.).

None of the main Star Wars leads have any great character arcs anyway ... they're all unnaturally good at stuff right from the moment we meet them ... Anakin is the only human capable of flying pods at age 9 (lol) and blows up a Trade Federation lead ship with no training, Luke blows up an entire Death Star with Darth Vader on his ass after a 5 minute lecture on the Force from Obi-Wan. 

As I've said that's like beating LeBron James in 1-on-1 basketball after only starting to play basketball two days earlier. 



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Sorry, but TLJ just killed any curiosity that I have about what's going to happen next.

I mean... Luke and Han are dead and did nothing fun while they were alive. Snoke's dead and he didn't matter.
Unstable child Kylo is leading the Emp-I mean first order. So they they are about as scary as Kylo is, IE not at all.
Maybe Finn and Rose will kiss again I guess. And Ray will save the day by always being super awesome as always.
I would like to see Leia do something cool but Carrie's dead so there's that.
Also I don't give a damn about generic flyerboi Poe.

So... I'm just not feeling it.
I wanted the new characters to draw me in. They didn't.
I wanted to see Luke do cool stuff. He didn't, and he's dead.

I just don't have any curiosity at all about what's going to happen in the third film.



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KungKras said:
Sorry, but TLJ just killed any curiosity that I have about what's going to happen next.

I mean... Luke and Han are dead and did nothing fun while they were alive. Snoke's dead and he didn't matter.
Unstable child Kylo is leading the Emp-I mean first order. So they they are about as scary as Kylo is, IE not at all.
Maybe Finn and Rose will kiss again I guess. And Ray will save the day by always being super awesome as always.
I would like to see Leia do something cool but Carrie's dead so there's that.
Also I don't give a damn about generic flyerboi Poe.

So... I'm just not feeling it.
I wanted the new characters to draw me in. They didn't.
I wanted to see Luke do cool stuff. He didn't, and he's dead.

I just don't have any curiosity at all about what's going to happen in the third film.

Yeah, pretty much my sentiments - the whole thing has just devolved into a typical superhero movie or good vs evil sci-fi (which is fine but you've got to at least throw some curveballs and provide some nuance, which Johnson didn't really do). 

Basic cheesy super hero or watered down sci-fi are not qualities that made Star Wars popular in the first place. It was the rich characters, mythological, historic, fantasy, and even Biblical qualities and inspiration, none of which the new trilogy (paticularly TLJ) does particularly well, if at all.

The only thing is, maybe J.J. can somewhat redeem what Johnson screwed up. I did find The Force Awakens a well made movie, if not a particularly creative or exciting one. It at least didn't leave me cringing like TLJ.



Man, I'm late! Before I read the comments, let me say that I hated TLJ but this trailer looks pretty good. Hopefully they can right this ship.



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My biggest gripe with the new trilogy is that there wasn't a single newly introduced character that I really care about. Nobody I want to cheer for.

While I watch the original 6 at least couple of times a year since their release (well, since getting the special edition on VHS in like 1997 and the prequels as they released...) I've only watched TFA twice and I haven't seen TLJ since going to the theater on opening day.

They systematically killed all of the emotion, characters, mystery, creativity, and fun. This trailer looks like a return to form and I'm hoping for the best.



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Question: people who think fans hate Rey because she's a woman--why don't you hear anyone hating on Jyn Erso?

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