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Forums - General Discussion - What do you say to judgmental people that say Superhero films are for kids ?

FattyDingDong said:

Often times you may come across those judgmental people whether it be on the internet or in real life they will judge you and say you are a grown man (or woman) why do you watch those superhero movies?  For instance a few days ago my coworker John complained to me that he is sick and tired of hearing other "grown men" talk so enthusiastically about the Avengers and other superhero movies, how can a self respecting man enjoy those movies? he wondered. I told him that although I agree that those movies are not interesting I have no right to tell others what to watch and what not to watch.

How do you deal with criticism like that?

I for one believe all movies are made for everyone and although I personally do not like superhero movies they do not interest me and not because I believe they are too kid friendly for me they are just not my style. To give you a better understanding of what movies I am about, I love No Country For Old Men, There Will Be Blood, Shawshank Redemption, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Apocalypse Now,The Godfather films (except for the 3rd one).   You may find those movies boring and uninteresting and that is exactly my point, everyone has different tastes in movies.   But how do we deal with criticism ?

In a nutshell: Fuck you, Mother Fucker.

I actually would not say this, but in principle that's the attitude I take to stiff neck fools.



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KLXVER said:
I don't think theres anything wrong with adults enjoying super hero movies. I just don't understand how many are not sick to death of pretty much the same movie with different color tights at this point.

The question would be why you believe they are the same movie with different color.  Is it that the hero always wins.  



Machiavellian said:
KLXVER said:
I don't think theres anything wrong with adults enjoying super hero movies. I just don't understand how many are not sick to death of pretty much the same movie with different color tights at this point.

The question would be why you believe they are the same movie with different color.  Is it that the hero always wins.  

A hero with a tragic backstory taking down a villain and saving their city or the world.

I mean is there one where the hero actually loses?(not counting the latest Avengers since its a two parter)

Maybe one where there is no villain?



Except hunting, all entertainment is for kids.

Seriously, I'd agree that super hero films is a bit for children, but adults can enjoy things that are for kids. There's nothing wrong about that, unless you act in your life like a kid. That's another problem though. In this current generation, we've got many that never grow up.



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KLXVER said:
Machiavellian said:

The question would be why you believe they are the same movie with different color.  Is it that the hero always wins.  

A hero with a tragic backstory taking down a villain and saving their city or the world.

I mean is there one where the hero actually loses?(not counting the latest Avengers since its a two parter)

Maybe one where there is no villain?

Actually there are a few where the ending you would not call a win.  Batman Begins I believe with the Joker.  In other words, there are a few where there are casualties and losses but a Superhero movie usually will have the hero winning because then they wouldn't be a hero.  If the Hero losses all the time then he would be considered a loser.

A superhero movie can only be as good as the actual villain. The villian on the other hand doesn't have to be cookie cutter and can be complex depending on development.  That also goes for the Hero as well.  There are some really good complex stories within the Hero genre, not all of them have come to the movie screen because most super hero movies are made to make people feel good.  Look for more complexities when you look at the Hero TV shows where things can be fleshed out better.



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I wouldnt let my children watch deadpool.



Here's something to consider for not just this particular topic, but for this general statement of "for kids" or other similarly weak phrase.

The person saying it is simply too ignorant to say something better.

As a professional accountant - I can provide you a strong supportable critique of why your spending habits are bad, your bookkeeping methods are bad, or your financial planning is bad.
I can't say from a position of strength whether you have a well constructed gazebo, I can only contribute superficial commentary of its aesthetic, and its ability to block the sun.

Likewise - most people can't or aren't cross genre experts of entertainment. It would take someone who is both simultaneously an avid baseball fan, and a film connoisseur, to be able to provide you an adequate statement of why baseball or film is the more worthy form of entertainment and vice versa.
Most people lack the self awareness to acknowledge their commentary on a particular topic isn't good or useful...and so we end up with reductive arguments like "for kids".



Don't know if that's true for all superhero movies, but the last one I watched (Deadpool) seemed very much aimed at children. The plot was written by a 12 year old and the jokes by an 8 year old kid.



Ganoncrotch said:
Video games are for kids
Cartoons are for kids
Animated movies are for kids
Super Hero movies (bar deadpool..... and the pegging) are for kids
Chocolate cake is for kids.....

I'll be honest given the things that are for adults such as smoking, alcohol, drug use...... (excluding sex because I can never get enough of that) but yeah the adult specific vices are all pretty shit in comparison to ones which are "for kids"

As for what I say to people who would argue a point like this towards me? Absolutely nothing really, I've no interest in changing the mind of someone who has already solidified it with stupid bias against someone who enjoys life, as a lifetime fan of gaming, movies, animated shows, cgi films, WWE and chocolate cake.... I have long since given up on caring that people who spend a portion of their lives looking for an area far enough away from work so they can poison themselves with smokes thinks of my pass times.

Have you had problems in the past dealing with people who drink or smoke?



Ataraxias said:
Here's something to consider for not just this particular topic, but for this general statement of "for kids" or other similarly weak phrase.

The person saying it is simply too ignorant to say something better.

As a professional accountant - I can provide you a strong supportable critique of why your spending habits are bad, your bookkeeping methods are bad, or your financial planning is bad.
I can't say from a position of strength whether you have a well constructed gazebo, I can only contribute superficial commentary of its aesthetic, and its ability to block the sun.

Likewise - most people can't or aren't cross genre experts of entertainment. It would take someone who is both simultaneously an avid baseball fan, and a film connoisseur, to be able to provide you an adequate statement of why baseball or film is the more worthy form of entertainment and vice versa.
Most people lack the self awareness to acknowledge their commentary on a particular topic isn't good or useful...and so we end up with reductive arguments like "for kids".

Holy shit, very well said.

As I've gotten older, I've noticed less and less of this sort of thing. During young adulthood, people are more prone to being offended by being called a child. A lot of people are insecure at this age as their peers are beginning to find work, move out of their parents house, find a companion, etcetera, and most people want to fit in and be a part of that process.

As one gets older, this desire to be more "adult-like" goes away, as without question, you are an adult, and therefore have nothing to prove. Also, as time goes by people tend to become more comfortable with themselves and may no longer be insecure about the way they are perceived by others.