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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 23 March 2019

Jranation on 09 April 2019
Amnesia said:
Jranation said:

Did the same thing happened with Xbox One and PS4?

Who really remember here when exactely was repeated and confirmed the rumors of the PS4 Pro and X, so we could check if the next few weeks had a 10% drop ?

Have you checked these before answering me so confidently ? Do you really think that only us here in VGCHARTZ are smart enough to use internet and read about the next console we would like to buy ?

Okay I see. So it was just an opinion without any facts or evidence. Because I thought you had some facts which made you reach that conclusion. 



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zorg1000 on 09 April 2019
Intrinsic said:
zorg1000 said:
I honestly expect some minor adjustments, I dont see any reason why PS4 & Switch would be so close in North America based on Jan/Feb NPD and insiders saying Mario Day deals caused a notable increase in Switch hardware sales.


PS4 is doing really good but PS4+XBO is on par with PS3+360 in a similar timeframe so it does have business doing so well, it's basically just making up for XBO doing so poor.

PS3+360 week ending March 26, 2011-326k

PS3+360 week ending March 24, 2012-285k

PS3 March 24, 2012+360 March 26, 2011-313k

PS4+XBO week ending March 23, 2019-306k

I gave a few different comparisons and all show that PS4/XBO are doing similar to PS3/360 at this point in their lives.

Great data...... on another note I guess this is all irrevocable evidence that the PS/XB are in direct competition with themselves and not with nintendo. How well or poorly they do seem to have no effect no be affected by how well/poorly the nintendo platform is doing. And with the HD twist it surely seems that one doing well is usually at the expense of the other.

This is also why MS really wants cross platform play to be a thing. Makes a case for the Xbox if you don't have to own a playstation to play against someone that owns a playstation.

Yep it's pretty crazy how directly they affect each other while Nintendo is it's own thing. If we look at lifetime sales, PS+XB sales have remained incredibly stable.

PS2 (157m)+XB (25m)=182 million

PS3 (87m)+360 (86m)=173 million

PS4 (120-130m)+XBO (50-55m)=170-185m

PS4/XBO are obviously just estimates but they should both end up really close to those numbers.

And ya that probably is why they are pushing for it so hard, alot of people simply buy the console their friends/family have which causes a domino effect where the more popular console just continues to become more and more popular. With cross-play this becomes less of an issue and people can buy the console they prefer without worrying so much about having no one to play with.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 09 April 2019

PS4 and NS quite strong even in slow periods, XBOne more than decent, considering it must compete with two strong market leaders.



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kirby007 on 09 April 2019

The ps4 does what the wii didnt massive sales without being a fad



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Amnesia on 09 April 2019
Jranation said:
Amnesia said:

Who really remember here when exactely was repeated and confirmed the rumors of the PS4 Pro and X, so we could check if the next few weeks had a 10% drop ?

Have you checked these before answering me so confidently ? Do you really think that only us here in VGCHARTZ are smart enough to use internet and read about the next console we would like to buy ?

Okay I see. So it was just an opinion without any facts or evidence. Because I thought you had some facts which made you reach that conclusion. 

No fact, but it could be interesting to investigate if there was an impact on the 2 weeks after the first strong PS4 Pro rumors. For me it makes sens, they announce it like for the first time a "sure thing" about the Switch Pro, and we see a drop of 10%. It is not a collaspe, it is a little drop. The 200.000+ people who buy a switch every weeks are not just brainless consumers who just buy a product, although 99% of them are much less expert than users here.



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Heavenly_King on 09 April 2019

is there a link for the SW chart?? I dont see it in the front page.



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simek on 09 April 2019

I see Sony in diffcult position. When you are at year 6 an you selling like in year nr.2 and you  about to lounch a new console next year. When you look at the exclusive games for this and next year It seams like the PS4 could go for at least 2 more years untill PS5. How to lounch a new system when your old is still as hot as new baby (switch).  Lounching PS5 is gonna be very difficult  act (getting the message right).  Its easier fo MS to get into the next gen. They have nothing too lose  and almosy everything to gain.

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Skeeuk on 09 April 2019

Ps4 is God like at the moment. It shouldn't be like this in its 6th year selling 1 million a month...... Just wait till the 199 price point I hope ps5 launches late



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EricHiggin on 09 April 2019
simek said:

I see Sony in diffcult position. When you are at year 6 an you selling like in year nr.2 and you  about to lounch a new console next year. When you look at the exclusive games for this and next year It seams like the PS4 could go for at least 2 more years untill PS5. How to lounch a new system when your old is still as hot as new baby (switch).  Lounching PS5 is gonna be very difficult  act (getting the message right).  Its easier fo MS to get into the next gen. They have nothing too lose  and almosy everything to gain.
Skeeuk said:
Ps4 is God like at the moment. It shouldn't be like this in its 6th year selling 1 million a month...... Just wait till the 199 price point I hope ps5 launches late

Whether PS wants to wait that long, they probably could if they wanted to in terms of games. They seem to have enough first party to be able to spread out over another couple years, and with their install base being well over 100 million soon enough, even if a next gen XB drops, the overwhelming majority of third party games will still come out for PS4.



Jranation on 10 April 2019
Amnesia said:
Jranation said:

Okay I see. So it was just an opinion without any facts or evidence. Because I thought you had some facts which made you reach that conclusion. 

No fact, but it could be interesting to investigate if there was an impact on the 2 weeks after the first strong PS4 Pro rumors. For me it makes sens, they announce it like for the first time a "sure thing" about the Switch Pro, and we see a drop of 10%. It is not a collaspe, it is a little drop. The 200.000+ people who buy a switch every weeks are not just brainless consumers who just buy a product, although 99% of them are much less expert than users here.

Imo a rumored sale/price drop is much more believable. But I guess a rumored Slim version might impact in regions like Japan where they do prefer handhelds. 



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