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https://www.9news.com.au/national/national-news-animal-activist-group-cause-chaos-with-day-of-mass-farm-invasions-and-protests/23e1001c-b83b-4a7d-aba1-1e13cd8f0af3

"Animal rights activists have launched protests across the country, with protesters slowly being arrested and dragged into police vans after blocking a major Melbourne CBD intersection.....

More than 100 activists are chanting: "What do we want? Animal liberation - now!" with some sitting on tram tracks near the Flinders-Swanston St intersection.

Protesters are holding signs that say: "This is a peaceful protest" and "SOS animal emergency climate emergency".....

Event organiser Christine Lee said protesters were on site to bring attention to the film Dominion - a film hoping to expose "the dark side of animal agriculture".

“The film shows the truth about what is happening to animals in this country and around the world, but it was all Australian footage,” she told Today.

“We want to show we're regular people who have had enough, we are killing the planet and killing animals at rates that are just unacceptable.

“And drastic times call for drastic measures so that is why we're here today. We have nine teams around Australia that are going to places of violence to draw attention to them directly.”

What are your thoughts on Animal Liberation? Do you support the Vegans protesting for the liberty and freedom of animals?

Last edited by Dark_Lord_2008 - on 07 April 2019

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Well I was going to start this thread but titled "Are Vegans taking over your country"

But i knew you would lol.

All this protest will do is make people by more meat.

If they care so much about animal cruelty, then why not run their own farms? People will never not eat animals, so they may as well make their lives better if they don't agree with farming practices.



 

 

As long as these people do not step in-between me and my Chick-Fil-A, they can protest whatever they want.



Sitting at a crossing is pretty dangerous, sounds like roadkill to me



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Disrupting businesses, shutting down roads, raiding farms, etc. Vegan protestors are making lots of noise and gaining more attention and publicity towards their movement. Social media supporters are behind these Vegan protestors and encourage them to fight for Animal rights and an end to animal cruelty. Animal Liberation Now! Go Vegan!



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Disrupting businesses, shutting down roads, raiding farms, etc. Vegan protestors are making lots of noise and gaining more attention and publicity towards their movement. Social media supporters are behind these Vegan protestors and encourage them to fight for Animal rights and an end to animal cruelty. Animal Liberation Now! Go Vegan!

That doesn't really sound like "peaceful protest". It is true what they say; the human is the most dangerous animal.



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John2290 said:
A world where everyone is vegan is a world where world war 3 will happen killing many animals in more horrific ways and causing mass extinction and it's not anywhere close to achievable with the shear amount of extra plant based food we would need to grow annually. Fuck these guys, they are better off promoting the use of condoms so we have less mouths to feed. Idealist with only complaints but no plan past their whining.

That doesn't make any sense. Animal products take up way more space than vegtables, both directly and indirectly (most of the plants we grow are to feed the animals). If everyone were to go vegan, we would actually save huge amounts of space (and also effort, water...), so it's very achievable.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

What are your thoughts on Animal Liberation? Do you support the Vegans protesting for the liberty and freedom of animals?

We have evolved by being able to eat just about anything, and its probably helped us survive.
Our bodies are ment to eat meat occasionally..... I dont believe being pure vegan is healthy, just like those almost pure meat diets, arnt healthy either.

our teeth:
"we have biting/tearing/ripping incisors and canines (like carnivores) and chewing molars (like herbivores).
Animals with such diverse teeth tend to be omnivores."

Also some complex proteins and fats (that the body needs) just arnt found in a vegan diet.
We do consume more meat than we probably should (as a whole), instead of fighting to turn people vegan, getting people to eat less animals might be a easier way to go about saveing animal lives. Convinceing people to go against human nature, and do something not beneficial to themselves... is gonna be hard to get through.



Flilix said:
John2290 said:
A world where everyone is vegan is a world where world war 3 will happen killing many animals in more horrific ways and causing mass extinction and it's not anywhere close to achievable with the shear amount of extra plant based food we would need to grow annually. Fuck these guys, they are better off promoting the use of condoms so we have less mouths to feed. Idealist with only complaints but no plan past their whining.

That doesn't make any sense. Animal products take up way more space than vegtables, both directly and indirectly (most of the plants we grow are to feed the animals). If everyone were to go vegan, we would actually save huge amounts of space (and also effort, water...), so it's very achievable.

This can be true for intensive farms using cereals and legumes as fodder, but if we just ate LESS meat, but higher quality one, from mostly grazing livestock, in that case animals can transform into high quality food plants that are inedible or either not tasty or not nutritious or both for humans, like grass, acorns, very bitter bulbs and tubers, etc. or even plants that are poisonous for humans and some animals, but edible for others. Game can also give food from woods without modifying them, so hunting, following well thought rules, animals like wild boars, that in many countries have only humans left as predators and so aren't currently threatened but even in excess can even be good for the environment. Reintroducing wolves wouldn't work for wild boar population control, as wolves aren't stupid and they'd kill any other animal available before hunting an animal difficult and dangerous. Almost the same applies in a few places where even deers have become too many due to lack of other predators than men. The key is minimising environmental impact, agriculture alone isn't the right solution, intensive farming neither, maximum diversification and the right choice of food to take from each place are. Obviouly for the new human ecosystem to not just work, but also be sustainable in the long term, the weekly amount of meat eaten should be much lower than the average current one in the USA. Greater diversification than now will also be necessary very soon in fishing. (*)


(*) PS: And in agriculture too.



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How about we eat the vegans?



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