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vivster said:

To be fair, Valve doesn't need to send any incentives, the Steam monopoly is incentive enough and it's the reason why the deal only lasts for 6 months. Valve basically made a deal without actually making a deal.

Posts like this make me laugh, people literally dont know what a monopoly is lmao.

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Azzanation said:
Darwinianevolution said:
This makes me wonder what's going to happen a year from now. I doubt they will keep getting exclusives at this rate, it's not finantially viable. When all of the games come back to Steam, will the Epic Store have enough moment to survive, or will just be left alone when the exclusives are not a draw anymore?

They will continue to do so until they are big enough to walk there own ground. Epic can make games and while there main competitor Steam doesnt or rarey make games themselves, you can argue there is very little exclusives on Steam recently. 

Launchers will improve and when EGS gets its major updates, its going to only get bigger. It also shows EGS isnt afraid to spend money. I am hoping this is a wake up call for the PC industry which will only benefit Steam users in the long run.

Mate, we've told you this time and time again.


Valve are making 3 VR games, they've released a game last year, and they even want to reboot it like SE rebooted FFXIV, like how Ubisoft stuck with RB6S. They have a VR headset+controllers on the way and the VR games to go with it, as well as a store revamp. They are actually doing shit and you're flat out ignoring this, spinning this as if it's Epic doing a superior job, doing the majority of the work while ignoring what Steam is doing and having the absolute balls to claim that what Epic is doing will magically benefit me.


The thing is it won't, nicking games from all other storefronts doesn't fucking benefit me. All you want is HL3 and I know for a fact that even if they did, it'd never live up to expectations, mine included and that you'd slam them for it, like an inserted self fulfilling prophecy. I want new games from Valve, not Assassins Creed style "I want more of this one game" kind of garbage. You like Ass creed?, that's dandy, but spamming like it's Final Fantasy isn't exactly a good thing for every single game, especially when said game has lost the majority of it's writers, but you want to see it fly and crash for the sake of seeing it fly for a few seconds. 

EGS isn't afraid to spend money because it's living off of one game. Tim thinks he's going to become as big as google and that's both pompous and incredibly arrogant. Show me where the speech is where Gaben acted as smug as that. EGS as Jim puts it would rather "destroy" it's "competition" rather than co-existing with it. Valve so far hasn't gone out of it's way to eliminate everyone else. Valve in all the time GoG has been around, wasn't the one that took down it's fair price policy, that's on Epic and their brute force bullshit tactics. That's not healthy competition at all. 


The PC industry has been awake this whole damn time, where have you actually been this whole time,fellow "PC" gamer?. 



                                       

BasilZero said:
vivster said:

To be fair, Valve doesn't need to send any incentives, the Steam monopoly is incentive enough and it's the reason why the deal only lasts for 6 months. Valve basically made a deal without actually making a deal.

Posts like this make me laugh, people literally dont know what a Monopoly is lmao.

Their monopoly is apparently strong enough that people start to cry if a PC game isn't released on Steam. Like they cried when games went exclusive on the Windows store. Because apparently Steam is so ubiquitous already that it's a crime to not release on it. What other platform on PC is able to mobilize the entire PC community if a handful of games skip their store?

Great that you know the definition of a monopoly. Now you also might want to look up the words "de facto".



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I've never seen so much doomsaying and gnashing of teeth over something so trivial. First world problems, indeed.

I have a PC, I have money, I want to play this game, I'll buy it wherever it's being sold, and I'm pretty sure I'll be okay afterwards.



vivster said:
BasilZero said:

Posts like this make me laugh, people literally dont know what a Monopoly is lmao.

Their monopoly is apparently strong enough that people start to cry if a PC game isn't released on Steam. Like they cried when games went exclusive on the Windows store. Because apparently Steam is so ubiquitous already that it's a crime to not release on it. What other platform on PC is able to mobilize the entire PC community if a handful of games skip their store?

Great that you know the definition of a monopoly. Now you also might want to look up the words "de facto".

I didn’t realize consumers are also part of the “monopoly”

You pretty much made your argument of Steam being a monopoly null and void with your example of the Microsoft store.

Not surprising considering coming from a person who made this site’s own coder leave from his mindless replies couple of months back.



    

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Chazore said:

Mate, we've told you this time and time again.


Valve are making 3 VR games, they've released a game last year, and they even want to reboot it like SE rebooted FFXIV, like how Ubisoft stuck with RB6S. They have a VR headset+controllers on the way and the VR games to go with it, as well as a store revamp. They are actually doing shit and you're flat out ignoring this, spinning this as if it's Epic doing a superior job, doing the majority of the work while ignoring what Steam is doing and having the absolute balls to claim that what Epic is doing will magically benefit me.


The thing is it won't, nicking games from all other storefronts doesn't fucking benefit me. All you want is HL3 and I know for a fact that even if they did, it'd never live up to expectations, mine included and that you'd slam them for it, like an inserted self fulfilling prophecy. I want new games from Valve, not Assassins Creed style "I want more of this one game" kind of garbage. You like Ass creed?, that's dandy, but spamming like it's Final Fantasy isn't exactly a good thing for every single game, especially when said game has lost the majority of it's writers, but you want to see it fly and crash for the sake of seeing it fly for a few seconds. 

EGS isn't afraid to spend money because it's living off of one game. Tim thinks he's going to become as big as google and that's both pompous and incredibly arrogant. Show me where the speech is where Gaben acted as smug as that. EGS as Jim puts it would rather "destroy" it's "competition" rather than co-existing with it. Valve so far hasn't gone out of it's way to eliminate everyone else. Valve in all the time GoG has been around, wasn't the one that took down it's fair price policy, that's on Epic and their brute force bullshit tactics. That's not healthy competition at all. 


The PC industry has been awake this whole damn time, where have you actually been this whole time,fellow "PC" gamer?. 

VR will be popular one day.. but as of right now.. 3 VR games isn't going to please 95% of Steams community while EGS customers are playing The Outer Worlds, Borderland 3 and many more future timed exclusives.

Epic will most likely make another game that everyone can play while Valve are making games that not everyone can play, can you see the difference here?

We all want a HL3 but I don't want one unless its done right and I am happy to wait for, if that ever happens. For now I am looking forward to Black Mesa Xen.

Where have I been you asked? Playing PC games actually, Just tried out Darksiders 3, Darkness 2 and Furi (which was on sale) all on Steam. I guess I am just waiting for the next big AAA game but it seems I have to wait months to a year for some of them. Thanks for asking. 



The reality of the situation is simply that right now Epic offers a better deal for developers and publishers compared to Steam, at least when it comes to high profile companies like Xearbox. Whether people like it or not that's just how it is right now. It gets the Epic Store more publicity and significant exclusives, even if they are timed, and it's no different from what companies have been doing in this industry for decades. Unless this starts to significantly impact their sales and profits I doubt much will change in the near future, and if past "gamer boycots" are anything to go by, it won't.



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vivster said:
BasilZero said:

Posts like this make me laugh, people literally dont know what a Monopoly is lmao.

Their monopoly is apparently strong enough that people start to cry if a PC game isn't released on Steam. Like they cried when games went exclusive on the Windows store. Because apparently Steam is so ubiquitous already that it's a crime to not release on it. What other platform on PC is able to mobilize the entire PC community if a handful of games skip their store?

Great that you know the definition of a monopoly. Now you also might want to look up the words "de facto".

Well depends on the game, Borderlands as a franchise became big thanks to its million fans especially also on steam. They made a lot of money thanks to their fans and they deserved it but now they seem to prefer to screw those fans for a big cheque. It seems to be a logical step to release you games on all platforms on or on so much as possible for your fans but now it seems game devs are making games to make a lot of money.






konnichiwa said:

Well depends on the game, Borderlands as a franchise became big thanks to its million fans especially also on steam. They made a lot of money thanks to their fans and they deserved it but now they seem to prefer to screw those fans for a big cheque. It seems to be a logical step to release you games on all platforms on or on so much as possible for your fans but now it seems game devs are making games to make a lot of money.

Timed exclusivity is fine at least to me as long as I can get the game I want on the platform I want :p.

It sucks overall ya but cant control publishers/developers so its w/e.



    

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