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PSA: Sony is planning to take the ENTIRE Driveclub franchise off the Playstation Store on August 31st, server shutdown also planned for next year

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flashfire926 said:
KLAMarine said:
Why? Why stop? Two driving sims is one too many?

Driveclub is not an simulation racer, it's rather more to the arcade side with a some sim elements in it.

If you say so. Looks pretty sim to me.



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BasilZero said:

Not much anyone outside of the Industry can do about that though.

Its unfortunately inevitable

Assertions without evidence are mere conjecture. Streaming-only is a possible future, but not an inevitable one. Print books being displaced by e-books was supposed to be inevitable. Didn't exactly pan out, considering how e-books' share of books sales stopped growing years ago. The vast majority of console gamers want physical copies. There's nothing to suggest that the portion of console gamers who want physical copies must necessarily dwindle to a negligible percentage. And as long as the demand for physical copies exists, they will continue to be made. If any part of the entertainment industry had room to just flat-out force its customers to go digital-only, it was music, but they haven't, despite 20 years of declining album sales (full albums still being purchased primarily on physical formats).

twintail said:
Shadow1980 said:

It's entirely possible that one day Sony will just stop selling PS4 games digitally.

Maybe, but PS5 will support PS4 so I doubt it.

Perhaps. I hope backwards compatibility remains the norm. But at some point you have to wonder if they'll end up just ceasing support for older consoles as the generations progress. I hope it doesn't progress beyond the Xbox and Wii, but I don't want to get my hopes up. Ever since I lost all my Halo 2 DLC, I've been incredibly paranoid about these sorts of things.

Bofferbrauer2 said:
This is why I don't like GaaS.

Streaming would be even worse, as then nothing would be playable anymore after March 31 2020, not even the singleplayer.

Thank you!

This guy knows what's up.

KLAMarine said:

If you say so. Looks pretty sim to me.

It looks like a sim, but it doesn't play like one. The controls are much more arcade-y than something like Gran Turismo, but not quite as arcade-y as, say, Cruisin' USA, Burnout, or Mario Kart. It fits in a middle ground, though definitely a bit closer to an arcade racer. The driving is much more accessible.



Seems like the game isn't making enough money to maintain the licensing deals. There really isn't any other reason to remove it from the digital stores except for the reason it costs alot to keep it on there.

By now gamers should have a decent PC to at least play a Forza Horizon game. They don't seem like there going anywhere anytime soon.



Shadow1980 said:
BasilZero said:

Not much anyone outside of the Industry can do about that though.

Its unfortunately inevitable

Assertions without evidence are mere conjecture. Streaming-only is a possible future, but not an inevitable one. Print books being displaced by e-books was supposed to be inevitable. Didn't exactly pan out, considering how e-books' share of books sales stopped growing years ago. The vast majority of console gamers want physical copies. There's nothing to suggest that the portion of console gamers who want physical copies must necessarily dwindle to a negligible percentage. And as long as the demand for physical copies exists, they will continue to be made. If any part of the entertainment industry had room to just flat-out force its customers to go digital-only, it was music, but they haven't, despite 20 years of declining album sales (full albums still being purchased primarily on physical formats).

twintail said:

Maybe, but PS5 will support PS4 so I doubt it.

Perhaps. I hope backwards compatibility remains the norm. But at some point you have to wonder if they'll end up just ceasing support for older consoles as the generations progress. I hope it doesn't progress beyond the Xbox and Wii, but I don't want to get my hopes up. Ever since I lost all my Halo 2 DLC, I've been incredibly paranoid about these sorts of things.

Bofferbrauer2 said:
This is why I don't like GaaS.

Streaming would be even worse, as then nothing would be playable anymore after March 31 2020, not even the singleplayer.

Thank you!

This guy knows what's up.

KLAMarine said:

If you say so. Looks pretty sim to me.

It looks like a sim, but it doesn't play like one. The controls are much more arcade-y than something like Gran Turismo, but not quite as arcade-y as, say, Cruisin' USA, Burnout, or Mario Kart. It fits in a middle ground, though definitely a bit closer to an arcade racer. The driving is much more accessible.

I'm talking about everything being tied to digital and online thus being removed/delisted is a norm now since not every game and every piece of data is tied to the disc anymore.



    

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flashfire926 said:
Deslisting is completely normal for racing games. Forza games also get delisted within 4 to 5 years. Unfortunately it's all in the hands of the real life car manufacturers, and there's nothing that can be done about that.

All developers/publishers of racing games could and should push for better contracts with longer licenses. Especially the big publishers like Microsoft, Sony, EA and Ubisoft should be in a position to manage that.

But it is probably a welcomed excuse for them to sell more newer racing games with higher profit margins than selling the older games for nickels.

So even if I can understand these business decisions, all publishers of racing games should be called out on that behavior instead of settling for "there's nothing that can be done about that".



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Conina said:
flashfire926 said:
Deslisting is completely normal for racing games. Forza games also get delisted within 4 to 5 years. Unfortunately it's all in the hands of the real life car manufacturers, and there's nothing that can be done about that.

All developers/publishers of racing games could and should push for better contracts with longer licenses. Especially the big publishers like Microsoft, Sony, EA and Ubisoft should be in a position to manage that.

But it is probably a welcomed excuse for them to sell more newer racing games with higher profit margins than selling the older games for nickels.

So even if I can understand these business decisions, all publishers of racing games should be called out on that behavior instead of settling for "there's nothing that can be done about that".

But where exactly is the problem for the customer here?

You've had years to buy the game digitally.
You can still buy the game physically (new and used).
The game is not being removed from your digital library.

So why should any company pay millions for licenses so that a few latecomers can buy the game digitally. That's just silly. That money could be spent much better on developing a sequel.



Conina said:
flashfire926 said:
Deslisting is completely normal for racing games. Forza games also get delisted within 4 to 5 years. Unfortunately it's all in the hands of the real life car manufacturers, and there's nothing that can be done about that.

All developers/publishers of racing games could and should push for better contracts with longer licenses. Especially the big publishers like Microsoft, Sony, EA and Ubisoft should be in a position to manage that.

But it is probably a welcomed excuse for them to sell more newer racing games with higher profit margins than selling the older games for nickels.

So even if I can understand these business decisions, all publishers of racing games should be called out on that behavior instead of settling for "there's nothing that can be done about that".

How would they be? These car licenses are far more lucrative to the publishers of the games than it is to the actual manufacturers; its practically free money for them.

If there was actually a tangible 2 way benefit to these deals then yeah publishers could and should negotiate longer terms. But there isn't. The person buying GT Sport on a PS4 is extremely unlikely to be the same person who is going out to buy a Ferrarri. 

besides, Rushy himself even said that 5 year deals are the standard



Delisting, ok. It happens with racers thanks to car licensing.

Shutting down online play though? Didn’t it sell over 10 million and has a VR title? Weird move. If only Sony had a fee to play online so they wouldn’t make moves like that.



Sad to hear that
It is a great game with potential



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