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PSA: Sony is planning to take the ENTIRE Driveclub franchise off the Playstation Store on August 31st, server shutdown also planned for next year

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Delisting racing games is completely normal and happens all the time. Shutting down the online mode however isn't.
I believe there are still plenty of people playing considering there aren't that many racers out there and there's no sequel to the game.



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flashfire926 said:
Deslisting is completely normal for racing games. Forza games also get delisted within 4 to 5 years. Unfortunately it's all in the hands of the real life car manufacturers, and there's nothing that can be done about that.

Shutting down the online though? That's complete bullshit. For reference, Forza Motorsport 2, which came out in 2007, has servers that are still up to this day. Burnout Paradise (the original version from 2008) is still up and running too.
Sony has constantly shut down many game servers last few years of PS3, Vita, and even PS4 games. Where is all that PS Plus money going, Sony?

The game itself is great, one of the best racing games of this generation I reccomend it to everyone before its gone for good.

It's in the name if Driveclub was Gran Turismo Club it most likely would be still be going, but it isn't and since GT Sport is built around online, and with the developer gone it is now surplus too requirements.

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the-pi-guy said:
It seems incredibly bizarre for them to remove it from the PS store.

Especially since the game can be played offline...

It has been mentioned a few times in this thread, driving games are typically  subject to 5 year licencing deals from the manufacturers, it comes down to whether it's worth renewing those deals to keep the game on the store.



Hopefully we get a new Drive Club at the launch of PS5. The need of a good arcade racer is real. I'll be happy with a new Motorstorm or Drive Club next gen.



Whoever said life to be like a box of chocolates clearly didn't know what he was talking about. 

Life is more like a game of bumper cars. At every turn there is a possibility you will get screwed.

Sony did a similar thing with MAG, Warhawk, GT5, and others. I guess the online community isn't enough to justify its existence anymore.



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kirby007 said:
BasilZero said:

Hopefully it wont end up like Driveclub.

Or GT6

You don't want it to be excellent, filled with content to the top and very well supported?



Shadow1980 said:

It's entirely possible that one day Sony will just stop selling PS4 games digitally.

Maybe, but PS5 will support PS4 so I doubt it.

BasilZero said:
BraLoD said:
GT7 incoming.

Hopefully it wont end up like Driveclub.

GT has brand recognition. It has game support (considering the still constant updates/ dlc GT sport receives) . It also has a functioning online from day 1 (which pretty much crippled any change DC had)

shikamaru317 said:
the-pi-guy said:
It seems incredibly bizarre for them to remove it from the PS store.

Especially since the game can be played offline...

The same thing has happened to some older Forza games on Xbox. It is most likely because a licensing agreement for some of the cars in the game expired after 5 years, and Sony doesn't want to pay to renew the license or go in and remove the expired cars via a patch, so they are taking the lazy route and delisting the whole game. 

removing cars via a patch is one dumb suggestion, more so when you consider it lazy not to do that. So you just want to be able to buy the game and browse the menus?



twintail said:
shikamaru317 said:

The same thing has happened to some older Forza games on Xbox. It is most likely because a licensing agreement for some of the cars in the game expired after 5 years, and Sony doesn't want to pay to renew the license or go in and remove the expired cars via a patch, so they are taking the lazy route and delisting the whole game. 

removing cars via a patch is one dumb suggestion, more so when you consider it lazy not to do that. So you just want to be able to buy the game and browse the menus?

Most likely it's not every car in the game that is creating the problem. They likely had a 5 year licensing deal with a single car make that is causing the issue, maybe more but probably not every car make in the game. They could go in and patch out all cars by whichever car makes that are creating the issue, but they are instead choosing to kill the game. Kind of sad imo, Driveclub is pretty fun, better than GT anyway though I still prefer Forza Horizon to Driveclub. 

As I said before, Forza has the same problem, both Horizon 1 and Horizon 2 have already been delisted due to either expiring car licensing deals, or expiring music licensing deals, and it is possible that Forza Horizon 3 and 4 will also be delisted 4 years after they released like FH1 and FH2 were. 

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shikamaru317 said:
twintail said:

removing cars via a patch is one dumb suggestion, more so when you consider it lazy not to do that. So you just want to be able to buy the game and browse the menus?

Most likely it's not every car in the game that is creating the problem. They likely had a 5 year licensing deal with a single car make that is causing the issue, maybe more but probably not every car make in the game. They could go in and patch out all cars by whichever car makes that are creating the issue, but they are instead choosing to kill the game. Kind of sad imo, Driveclub is pretty fun, better than GT anyway though I still prefer Forza Horizon to Driveclub. 

As I said before, Forza has the same problem, both Horizon 1 and Horizon 2 have already been delisted due to either expiring car licensing deals, or expiring music licensing deals, and it is possible that Forza Horizon 3 and 4 will also be delisted 4 years after they released like FH1 and FH2 were. 

its highly unlikely that a single car had a 5 year license and the rest didn't. a single manufacturer is possible but also unlikely since such long term licensing makes little sense for the car manufacturer with the variety of different car games using their brand there are. 

That said, patching is not nearly as easy as you make it out to be. Getting rid of the cars are one thing, but that can easily cause other issues. Additionally, DC has different car iconography all over the menus and even the opening video itself. If an affected car(s) are part of this specific iconography, then they would need to go through the process of changing those too. Manufacturers even have their own stats collected for the player to see, so there is that. 

The most difficult part would be the individual races within different leagues, or even whole entire leagues, that would be affected because of a car license. Now these races would need to be patched out (affecting the individual league or just the overall progression system from a visual and structural capacity - which again can cause problems) or they need to be changed with other cars.

Obvious nothing else will be re-licensed so going through changing will be a meaningless move since they will just need to do it again. removing stuff isnt that simple menu UI, stats, and races themselves are going to be majorly affected. 

Saying they are being lazy for not just patching out the content seems rather ill-considered. It is not nearly as easy as just removing the cars.

That doesn't excuse Sony for dropping the online servers.  But this is risk a company takes when a game they make is based mostly around licensing. And this doesn't even consider the music licensing the game has too. 



This is why I don't like GaaS.

Streaming would be even worse, as then nothing would be playable anymore after March 31 2020, not even the singleplayer.