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Are Humans 'Intelligent'

Yes 9 32.14%
 
We can only define intelligence based on us 11 39.29%
 
Absolutely Not 4 14.29%
 
Other (Post) 3 10.71%
 
See Results 1 3.57%
 
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Bofferbrauer2 on 28 March 2019

Well, I'm actually active for SETI, having my computer/laptop work the data when I'm not using it (via BOINC)

Like other's said, there not being intelligent life is mathematical improbable, so I'm doing my part in finding life - though I doubt anything can be found during my lifetime.



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CuCabeludo on 28 March 2019
SvennoJ said:
CuCabeludo said:

The universe is expanding faster and faster, so if some galaxy is believed to contain a life friendly planet we will never know whether there is life there since it is just getting more and more distant from us as time passes. It is a pointless search.

There's plenty time left before expansion is faster than the speed of light. First Andromeda will pass through our galaxy in about 3.75 billion years. Will we still be around to see it...

If we survive we'll eventually colonize the entire universe anyway. It's just a matter of time.

Not really, earth is set to be unable to support life between 1 and 2 billion years from now when the sun starts it's death phase by slowly becoming hotter and bigger, and eventually it explodes into a supernova in 3.5-4 billion years according to scientific estimates.

Water will no longer be able to exist in liqud state 1 billion years from now therefore earth won't be able to support life, it will be a lot hotter.



CuCabeludo on 28 March 2019

If there is life somewhere around there, their fate is also bound to the lifespan of the star their planet depends on, just like us. Maybe several civilizations have already died due to the death of the star their planet depend upon.



m0ney on 28 March 2019

We were created by extraterrestrial intelligent life in genetic experiments and they have been monitoring us ever since, sometimes interfering.



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Immersiveunreality on 28 March 2019
SpokenTruth said:

We are intelligent only such as our frame of reference allows us to compare to.

That said, I believe their is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. But we've have only "looked" for it in 0.000000000000000000000001% of it. And that's just the observable universe.

400 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy. 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe. The full universe is infinity bigger. The sheer numbers basically guarantee it must exist or at least existed at some time (the universe is nearly 14 billion years old).

This is all we have really "looked" at:  That tiny dot is the extent of our radio broadcasts.  And this is just our galaxy.

And the Fermi Paradox is bunk. I can't believe it gained any form of notoriety at all. The counters against it are many.

Bolded: And it is a big possibillity that our own for our minds "infinite" universe grows in a ("infinite")space together with an "infinite"amount of universes.

When taking that all in we must really consider that life should not be a rarity in such vast amounts of space and mass,the wall we hit to truly discover it is that even the star closest to our sun is too far to currently reach and to get there we need to find better and new ways to travel those distances like something to move beyond fossil fuels effectively.

It will be a challenge to remain that long on this planet without mass extinction so that we can achieve the needed scientifically progress to get further.



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super_etecoon on 28 March 2019

I'm sorry, but that poll question is just silly. I'm going to leave it at that.



Qwark on 28 March 2019

On this planet we are definitely the most intelligent species, we are not very wise but still. But if some species exist which comes close to our sci-fi fantasy that definion may change.



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Immersiveunreality on 28 March 2019
super_etecoon said:
I'm sorry, but that poll question is just silly. I'm going to leave it at that.

I agree,everything that has a reaction based on survival/existing can be considered intelligent so humans are already far beyond that with our speech ,cultures,structures,social and emotional reactions and a lot more.



SvennoJ on 28 March 2019
CuCabeludo said:
SvennoJ said:

There's plenty time left before expansion is faster than the speed of light. First Andromeda will pass through our galaxy in about 3.75 billion years. Will we still be around to see it...

If we survive we'll eventually colonize the entire universe anyway. It's just a matter of time.

Not really, earth is set to be unable to support life between 1 and 2 billion years from now when the sun starts it's death phase by slowly becoming hotter and bigger, and eventually it explodes into a supernova in 3.5-4 billion years according to scientific estimates.

Water will no longer be able to exist in liqud state 1 billion years from now therefore earth won't be able to support life, it will be a lot hotter.

If we're still stuck in out own little solar system in 1 billion years then we don't deserve to colonize the universe. Interstellar flight should be possible within another thousand years.

However if the speed of light can't be broken in any possible way, an interstellar society will simply be impossible. The universe might already have small islands of disconnected colonies spread out in time. When messages take years to travel between stars with any supplies or traffic taking a multiple of that and even more due to relativistic effects, what kind of interstellar society can you build.

Suppose any messages between America and Europe would take 10 years to arrive, while any ships take a hundred years to arrive. The two would simply grow apart as if the other doesn't really exist.



Immersiveunreality on 28 March 2019
SvennoJ said:
CuCabeludo said:

Not really, earth is set to be unable to support life between 1 and 2 billion years from now when the sun starts it's death phase by slowly becoming hotter and bigger, and eventually it explodes into a supernova in 3.5-4 billion years according to scientific estimates.

Water will no longer be able to exist in liqud state 1 billion years from now therefore earth won't be able to support life, it will be a lot hotter.

If we're still stuck in out own little solar system in 1 billion years then we don't deserve to colonize the universe. Interstellar flight should be possible within another thousand years.

However if the speed of light can't be broken in any possible way, an interstellar society will simply be impossible. The universe might already have small islands of disconnected colonies spread out in time. When messages take years to travel between stars with any supplies or traffic taking a multiple of that and even more due to relativistic effects, what kind of interstellar society can you build.

Suppose any messages between America and Europe would take 10 years to arrive, while any ships take a hundred years to arrive. The two would simply grow apart as if the other doesn't really exist.

Does not need to be broken we only need to get near it.

Closest star is 4.24 lightyears away from earth and 4.37 from our own star called the sun so it would at the fastest rate mean we need to travel for 4.24 years but that speed is highly unlikely when we are capable to come close to the speed of light.

Breaking the speed of light could mean we would have to be able to create portals or fissure's into time and space (like the theories of wormholes) to be able moving mass at an almost unthinkable rate atm.