MrWayne said:
DonFerrari said:
Yes, sure. And if someone said he wouldn't ever hire anyone that isn't white because it wouldn't fit the type of story he wants to tell, there would be 0 calls of racism right?
Just like that game that passed during medieval Bohemia and had one reviewer complaining of the lack of black people and that he had one history researcher confirm to him that there was a possibility that could have been a black person in that area.
Or just like a recent preview of Days Gone that started complaining that the lead was a white gruffy male.
Funny you say that, because in Brazil we have a president that his father in law is black and his best friend also is black, but is called racist. The VP is from black and indigenous heritage, and was claimed to be racist because he joked that his grandson is prettier because his skin was lighter.
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Do you realise that you behave exactly the same way as that idiot who said Kingdom Come: Deliverance is white supremacist propaganda?
Creative freedom is one of the most important things in an artform therefore it is good that directors get the opportunity to hire an all black, white, asian or completely diverse cast if they really want to.
And btw you can be an advocate for creative freedom and still criticize a work of art that was made with a lot of creative freedom, when it's boring. (With Days Gone that wasn't even the case, the author liked the carakter)
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You either didn't understood me, or ignored several replies.
I want him to have as much freedom and cast whoever he wants. My point is if it was a white guy saying he will only cast white leads there would have been an outcry from media, while on this case they will applaud this behavior.
Runa216 said:
You've got to be kidding me.
You out yourself to be racist by declaring your intent to 'not tolerate people from the middle east', so I call you racist and that ends up getting a thread derailed and eventually locked. Then, you, as the 'I'm not racist you just don't understand' martyr, post about how terrible and racist a director is because he chose to not make films featuring white leads.
I'm pretty sure you are definitely racist.
Also, bit of a life lesson for ya: art is not dictated by your entitlement. If an artist chooses to make movies or games or TV shows or illustrations or novels or songs for one specific demographic or subculture, THAT IS THEIR prerogative. It's not racist to say "I chose to make black films featuring black casts because I feel that race is underrepresented", but it is TOTALLY a symptom of racist ideals to assign bigoty to art made with a goal in mind.
It's pretty disgusting that people like you are so quick to call someone racist for wanting to represent their culture but are probably completely okay with movies that regularly depict folks from the middle east as the villains. I mean, I know you wouldn't have a problem with that because you LITERALLY declared your intent to 'not tolerate people from the middle east'.
Get over yourself. Stop being such an entitled brat. You are not owed all art to cater to your tastes and if you don't understand that artists who have something to say might not actually cater to your needs...you might be an easily offended snowflake. |
Are you going to insist on your interpretation of what I said being the truth instead of what I said right? I have no need to reply to the same thing.
You can think whatever you want about myself, even if I have 3/4 of heritage from African slaves in Brazil, I have to tell you again how much I don't care about your opinion on me?
I'll ignore the rest of the personal attacks to just repeat what you probably ignored in the replies I gave to other people. I'm not calling him racist or complaining against his right to cast whoever he wants. There are plenty of all black series that I dearly enjoy with my 2 all time favorites being my wife and kids and fresh prince. The entire point is regarding media would totally annihilate someone saying he will only cast white leads while applauding someone that say it will only cast black leads.
You were very quick to call me dumb, incapable of discussing in english and with bad understanding, when you in fact made yourself a fool two times by completely misunderstanding what I said.
Also please refrain from personal attacks to not get the thread locked. If you read the rest of the replies besides SpokenTruth you'll see that it have been quite civil even when two opposite opinions have clashed.
jason1637 said:
DonFerrari said:
Would still be chosing based on skin color. One very clear situation of segreggation, prejudice and yes racism.
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Yeah he is picking based on skin color but thats because he wants his films to be different than most hollywood films, and he wants to give other non white people a chance. Its not segregation because there will still be white actors but they just wont be leads. Also its not racism because the guy likes white people.
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have we gone full circle then? Because "my company isn't racist, there is plenty of black employees, but none would be allowed to go above janitorial position. I even like black people, have a black driver" certainly wouldn't be considered racist by media.
Runa216 said:
DonFerrari said:
Would still be chosing based on skin color. One very clear situation of segreggation, prejudice and yes racism.
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Why does everything have to be a zero-sum game for you? Chosing to work with stories, casts, and crews that are primarily black DOES NOT MEAN that it's racist against white people. Giving an underrepresented group their chance to shine isn't white genocide or reverse racism and it's frankly gross that you equate the two.
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There isn't reverse racism, there is just racism. To chose people or avoid based on skin color again is by the book racism. Not sure why do you think this would be zero-sum game. Weren't you looking for "black and white"?
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