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Because the color of the lead actors skin decides what kind of movie it is, apparently. Isn't that a slightly weird thing to suggest?



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jason1637 said:
DonFerrari said:

Ow great, so a little less seggregational.

Would really fly well on a company to say "it isn't that we won't hire black people, we just won't put they on senior leadership roles, there is plenty of janitorial work for them to do"

But there are not a lot of black people in leadership roles so that would make no sense.

Would still be chosing based on skin color. One very clear situation of segreggation, prejudice and yes racism.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Mummelmann said:
Because the color of the lead actors skin decides what kind of movie it is, apparently. Isn't that a slightly weird thing to suggest?

It's because apparently there are plenty of things only a white male or black male would experience, with 0 probability of cross.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

The phrase "white dude" seems to be used almost exclusively by people looking to demean or attack whites. These people will never say "white man", always "white dude", even though they will always say "woman" when talking about, for example, feminist issues. I suppose it's because "dude" has a less respectful connotation than "man", but it's striking how unfailingly they will conform to this word choice. I personally now just write off anyone I see or hear talking this way, they have nothing of value to add to my life.



Of course there’d be outrage if someone said they only want white cast members. Hollywood is full of white actors. This is the IGN article all over again. He literally says he likes white dudes, but prefers diversity.

I’m a white dude and I don’t have a problem with people ignoring white actors to cast minorities. Whites have enough work to go around in Hollywood.



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DonFerrari said:
Mummelmann said:
Because the color of the lead actors skin decides what kind of movie it is, apparently. Isn't that a slightly weird thing to suggest?

It's because apparently there are plenty of things only a white male or black male would experience, with 0 probability of cross.

Have either of you seen Get Out?



On one hand if the stories he wants to tell require a black lead I have no problem with it. Certain stories require certain people as the lead. A historical drama about vikings requires a white lead, for example.

On the other hand this statement sure as hell wouldn't fly if the races were reversed. Plus, the whole 'bland white guy' narrative is reductive and absolute bullshit. This idea that adding 'diversity' automatically makes things better rather than judging a movie on its own merits is pure nonsense. Kill Bill and Alien featured women as action leads and they were brilliant. But we're supposed to applaud a mediocre superhero movie like Captain Marvel purely because the lead is a woman? The idea that Black Panther was the first black superhero to get a major motion picture when Wesley Snipes did it literally twenty years ago with Blade? The whole thing is ridiculous.



The thing is Peele can do whatever he wants with his films. However, it is complete BS for him to just say no to a white lead EVER. And I don't mean he has to ever make a movie with a white lead, but why the Hell does he need to come out and say it, pushing this identity politics crap. And yea, to just come out and say you aren't going to is racist, if it is also racist for a white director to say he isn't going to make a movie with a black/Asian/etc. lead because that is not what he wants to do. Either you say its fine for everyone to say/do those things, or no one can.



DonFerrari said:
SpokenTruth said:
So we are proving we don't understand racism again?

Yes, let's go on those warped arguments that have same situation but different interpretation to basically summarizes that it's only racism when it's against black, it is only prejudice if not on white male cis religious person.

Because you don't understand context and circumstance.  You're the guy that would ask, "Why don't we have White History Month and where is the White Music Channel?"

You can't get past the fact that racism is a contextual thing.  You want the strictest, most 'black and white' interpretation of what racism is but that's not how it works and you can't understand that.  Maybe it's too complex of a concept for you.  Maybe the nuances, context, functions, etc...are too difficult for you to grasp.  Or maybe you could grasp them but don't want to because you want to feel outraged, indignity, and anger for a perceived attack on you for simply being you. 

KLXVER said:
SpokenTruth said:
So we are proving we don't understand racism again?

No. Some of us just don't think everything about race is racism.

Correct.  It's not.  But some either think it is or want to be so they can feel justified by their own racism.

EndOfTolerance said:

The phrase "white dude" seems to be used almost exclusively by people looking to demean or attack whites. These people will never say "white man", always "white dude", even though they will always say "woman" when talking about, for example, feminist issues. I suppose it's because "dude" has a less respectful connotation than "man", but it's striking how unfailingly they will conform to this word choice. I personally now just write off anyone I see or hear talking this way, they have nothing of value to add to my life.

That's a reach, dude.  Calling a guy a white dude doesn't, hasn't and unlikely will ever have a racial connotation to it. 

And what are they supposed to say for a women, "dudette?



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SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes, let's go on those warped arguments that have same situation but different interpretation to basically summarizes that it's only racism when it's against black, it is only prejudice if not on white male cis religious person.

Because you don't understand context and circumstance.  You're the guy that would ask, "Why don't we have White History Month and where is the White Music Channel?"

You can't get past the fact that racism is a contextual thing.  You want the strictest, most 'black and white' interpretation of what racism is but that's not how it works and you can't understand that.  Maybe it's too complex of a concept for you.  Maybe the nuances, context, functions, etc...are too difficult for you to grasp.  Or maybe you could grasp them but don't want to because you want to feel outraged, indignity, and anger for a perceived attack on you for simply being you. 

KLXVER said:

No. Some of us just don't think everything about race is racism.

Correct.  It's not.  But some either think it is or want to be so they can feel justified by their own racism.

EndOfTolerance said:

The phrase "white dude" seems to be used almost exclusively by people looking to demean or attack whites. These people will never say "white man", always "white dude", even though they will always say "woman" when talking about, for example, feminist issues. I suppose it's because "dude" has a less respectful connotation than "man", but it's striking how unfailingly they will conform to this word choice. I personally now just write off anyone I see or hear talking this way, they have nothing of value to add to my life.

That's a reach, dude.  Calling a guy a white dude doesn't, hasn't and unlikely will ever have a racial connotation to it. 

And what are they supposed to say for a women, "dudette?

I guess this may be like the 10th or 100th time you call me dumb. I don't even know why I even take the time to reply to you.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994