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Do another course and go into more debt and the same result of no experience and no job. I just could not do it again and just gave up and signed onto doing volunteer work for welfare. stress and anxiety issues of being chronically unemployed. I did therapy and that lead no where and still unemployed. Nothing changes ever, just endless bad luck.

I am still long term unemployed stuck going no where in life and unemployable. That is it I am unemployable, long term unemployed for so long and doing higher education made me unemployable because I never did any relevant work experience. I can not even get those retail and fast food jobs. Not everyone can get a job because they want a job.

Where is my job? Still no job yet and I doubt a job will ever come my way. Still waiting for a job to come my way and I hammer out emails every day and with headers saying: I need a job now! Please pick me for this job. Is it my lucky day? Am I the one for this job? Please give me a chance!

No response, just crickets chirping. Just bad luck. Job search is a lottery.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
No one knows where you come from, No one knows what you have been through. They do not know your state of mind. They are not you. It is easy to say I have lived easy life, I have job and all this success, anyone can do it too. Not everyone has the same opportunities in life or got lucky in life.
I have applied for thousands of jobs online and no responses/replies. i feel so hopeless not getting any responses and no feedback.

Not getting any reply, neither good or bad, was also the most frustrating thing for me. You never know what's really going on, and it unnerves you easily. I really wish more companies would at least give you some reply, especially if they placed an ad for the job in the first place.

Brexit is certainly not helping you right now, either. I wish I could help you more. But apart from pointing you to some online platforms like freelancer to try and make money online for a change there ain't too much I can do for you now, at least nothing that comes to my mind. Just try to not loose hope. It's tough, but loosing hope will just make it even worse.

It was very tough for me, too. I had bought an apartment just before I lost the job before my first long unemployment period. I got so demotivated by my unemployment I took years to finish furnishing it, and took forever to motivate myself to clean the place up. If I hadn't had great neighbors and supportive parents at the time, I'm not sure what I would have done during that period. Getting a very shitty neighbor later on made me sell the place I intended to live with a wife  and raise my children. I didn't even have a girlfriend back then, even. I was just planning way ahead, but first my joblessness and then my new neighbor certainly killed that dream.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:

I am not fussy about job I send emails to jobs that pop up on my screen and just email away.
I do not even check the jobs or criteria and just send email claiming I am the best candidate for that job. It is a cut and paste email and I meet my quotas for my job search efforts.
Job search is pure numbers game, it is like winning the lottery.
The worst part is having to do that work for welfare nonsense that wastes time and does not provide any skills or experience for real world employment. Painting rocks, sorting clothes, weeding are not employable skills for the real world.
In the past I used to just cold call employers from phone book and claim to work for lowest wages and willing to do any job.

This is a big mistake. HR will notice very easily that you made a copy and paste and don't care about that job.

You have to read what the job is about, what is the company and them look at your qualifications and write an introduction letter showing why you are a good fit for it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Bofferbrauer2 said:
m0ney said:

I completely agree. This thread turned into success stories fest and makes it look like everything is great (almost) all the time. No it isn't. Life sucks for most people. Even the people with the good jobs usually still hate going to them. Life is hard. Some people don't see point in life and I can understand them, sometimes I feel that way too. If you live in places like Eastern Europe where I live, there is at least 85% chance your life will suck ass, you will be poor and miserable.

Yeah, it's sad that most answers where just like "if you want to work, you find plenty of work"

Like I said before, I was ling-term unemployed twice, but the reasons are unrelated to the ones in the OP. However I can relate to that also because of two friends of mine. One studied German language at the university and then had a very hard time to find a job for over a year. Had the employment office not sent her to work in an office at a special school, she probably wouldn't have found work anytime soon. She was just too qualified for most jobs (for those who don't know, employers  take these diplomas into account when hiring; as a result a highly educated person gets to be paid more than a person without diplomas, even for the same jobs - hence why people can be over-educated in the first place) and stumbled for a year and half before she got placed there.

The other one had rich parents, so she was pretty safe for a while, but both her diploma (french language) and her demeanor and looks (hot-tempered punk) where certainly off-putting for most early employer meetings. She mellowed down over time, though, after a couple months she didn't look like a punk at all anymore. And then finally got an opportunity as an elementary school teacher. But she was looking for over 4 years before she could find that one with her diploma.

Sadly, only a few countries have such extensive safety nets as Luxembourg does. Without it, I don't think I would be able to write you here now, as I don't think either of us would have gotten the job and training opportunities they offered us.

And for those complaining that it leads to people sitting at home just waiting for their unemployment paycheck, think again. In Luxembourg, you have to go to every lead they send you unless you have a very valid excuse not to (like being on prescribed sick leave or sending you somewhere you don't have any qualification for - but you need to point out the latter before the meeting date) and give them a copy of every job letter you sent (so they can check if you're really trying, but also to improve your resumee if necessary) at your monthly appointment (which is invariably before 10am) with them. Fail to do so and you won't get unemployment pay for a couple months. So yeah, you get enough money to live more or less, but they don't let you become lazy for it. Also keep in mind that you have to repay that money later on when you earn your own money.

Both friends you described just seems like people that chose a career that didn't offer value to the market so no one would want to pay for their qualifications.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Barozi said:
starcraft said:

Hi Barozi

Totally understand if you don't wish to answer, but are you able to shed some light on the type of role/industry that gives you that confidence?

I have had many years of what I would term 'secure' employment. But I could still be laid off with a months notice and a bit of a payout.

Well it's sort of a special case but in Germany there are two types of public servants and I'm working as a Beamter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamter) and due to that I'm not in a contractual relationship with the state. That means I have special rights (don't have to pay into the social security system, can't be laid off, getting paid at the beginning of the month instead of the end of a month etc.) but also special duties (cannot strike, longer work times than regular public employees etc.).

However even for regular public employees there's a special case according to tarrif where they can't be laid off, but there are quite a few conditions they have to met for that to happen.

Also regarding the point where you could be laid off within a months notice even when you worked for your employer for several years, that also wouldn't be possible in Germany. The maximum would be a 7 month's notice if you worked for more than 20 years for the same employer. Even then you cannot simply be fired as the termination of your contract has to be socially justified. For example, if the employer wants to fire people for economic reasons and you happen to be a single father, he has to fire all childless employees first before he could fire you.

In brazil all public service (that you apply for exam) are for life unless you commit a crime. Only public service that are fired is the ones appointed by politicians and the like, these change after every term when politicians don't win the election and get replaced.,

And @OP

Sorry, but you living in a country with 4% unemployment rate, and claiming to have sent over 1000 applications with not a single answer (even if negative) is very hard to believe.

If you were in a place with 30% unemployment rate I could believe more.

Last edited by DonFerrari - on 26 March 2019

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Yes I did. For 7-8 months I couldn't get a job having graduated with a Masters. Now after 5 years in the same position, I've moved on but as you say it's very tough. I have been searching for 4 months trending on a different career path now but still it is really tough however I have realized that the only way is to push through that phase as much as you can. You'd be surprised by how attitude can be the difference between getting a job or not. Once I became more confident with my approach I got to final stages of interviews with big companies. I got rejected but took a lot out of it.

I'll tell you my background story, where I'm from originally, there are little to no opportunities without having contacts. I traveled to London to search for opportunities. No one would sponsor me so I had to make something out of nothing. In the end I got an opportunity and now I just got my residency. Since then I want to do something more in line with my passions and literally been grinding my ass off constantly. I still get a rough time and my experience isn't where I want it to be, but the only way is to keep going 110% till you get a break.

Try not to have any excuses. I know bad luck accounts a lot but the more you look at it that way the more it weighs you down. And even if you gotta force it, a positive attitude is vital. If you feel your town has no opportunities, move! Try something different, that's my advice. A fresh start is always good. All the best and keep going! And if you need to talk just message me.



DonFerrari said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

I am not fussy about job I send emails to jobs that pop up on my screen and just email away.
I do not even check the jobs or criteria and just send email claiming I am the best candidate for that job. It is a cut and paste email and I meet my quotas for my job search efforts.
Job search is pure numbers game, it is like winning the lottery.
The worst part is having to do that work for welfare nonsense that wastes time and does not provide any skills or experience for real world employment. Painting rocks, sorting clothes, weeding are not employable skills for the real world.
In the past I used to just cold call employers from phone book and claim to work for lowest wages and willing to do any job.

This is a big mistake. HR will notice very easily that you made a copy and paste and don't care about that job.

You have to read what the job is about, what is the company and them look at your qualifications and write an introduction letter showing why you are a good fit for it.

Yes try to focus on more career options. If you do it online you gotta stand out. Networking is also very important, you gotta get yourself meeting as many people as you can.  



I chose a field that added no value to the economy and got older and became unemployable. Retail/fast food jobs I mainly send for the same low level jobs and do not mention degree on my resume. Higher education can make people unemployable. A low intelligent person life me is best suited for factory/cleaning/retail and fast food jobs. I tried to get into the military a couple of times but I was rejected on medical grounds. I was so desperate I wanted to serve in the Middle East but they said no way are we accepting someone with anxiety and other issues. I must be unemployable.

You must have perfect employment history and no gaps in resume to continue being employable. Life is so much stress and pressure.



HR Specialist here with several years of recruiting experience. Let me try to give you some advise.

Never evoke the feeling of desparation. Never beg. Never propose working for free or something like that. Never make the recruiter feel guilty for not picking you. The recruiter will set up an interview if the job description matches your skills. It doesn't matter how desperate you are, you must never let that show. The recruiter will want to hire you because you fit the job, not because of pity.

You already realised yourself that finding a job is a matter of timing. So never take any declination personal - it just wasn't the right time. Never give up, just keep on checking career pages and keep applying to those jobs that you have exceled in.

As a matter of fact, it is definitely true that you are in a downward spiral if you are long term unemployed. This is not an illusion, this is fact. However (again), this is not your fault, so you don't have to blame yourself. Just keep applying. It will work out one day.

The recruiter will come to the conclusion that no one else gave you work before so surely something must be wrong with you. This is a very prominent bias and is very hard to not fall to. Many people fall to it, especially if they don't know about it. Whenever we see something strange about a person we don't know, we always tend to assume the easiest explanation possible, which is in your case that something must be wrong with you and therefore nobody wants to work with you. It's a simple prejudice building process that many people can't shake off. However, this is not your fault, you must be stronger than that.

Easier said than done, right? Still, keep on applying and be confident. It will work out. Turn that desparation into desire. You might have no major experience but you are very eager to learn, you will work hard and you will want to prove yourself worthy. These are things that you can mention in your introduction letter.

By the way, the letter is overrated anyway - what matters most are your skills. Highlight what you've got and what you can do. That's the interesting part for a recruiter. And always stay confident and never give up. I believe in you.



I have no social network besides VGChartz. I am not on Facebook or LinkedIn or Twitter, etc. I just could not be bothered with it and do not know anyone that would be useful in me finding employment so I did not sign up for any of those social media sites.