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I did not look for any work related to commerce. I did not bother applying for jobs and I just took it easy and enrolled in other courses that I quit. There were too many people applying for graduate jobs and I could not be bothered writing long applications for no response. I could not be bothered has been a common theme that has dominated my entire life. I believe if I had family and friends that were in this field that I may have been able to get a job without doing anything. I believe in things in life being handed without working for it as shown in TV/Hollywood films. Know the right people to bypass the selection and interview process and get a job handed on a silver platter happens all the time where rich kids had mummy or daddy pull the strings and gets their kids jobs in company or firm.

What are the odds of getting a job? Is it a lot of time/effort to gain employment? Is this qualification a waste of time or worthwhile? Is the job easy or hard work?



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Ok I just spoke to a friend in Perth at 1:30AM in the morning my time.

He is willing to talk to you (i.e. take time out of his busy schedule), in person (his family runs a security company) and tell you what qualification you need to get to get a security license. Said it is about $800 all up.

Wants to have an informal interview to see what kind of character you are and drive you have before he makes up his mind on whether you should do the course or not and whether he is willing to employ you.



 

 

DonFerrari said:
JWeinCom said:
I've been unemployed for about a month, and it's getting me more depressed than I usually am.

I was a teacher, but I just couldn't do it. It wasn't for me. Unfortunately a teaching degree doesn't allow you to do much else besides teach (my undergrad was in English) so I'm sort of shit out of luck. I'm looking to get into the legal world so I've been filling out applications for entry level paralegal work. That's usually a straight out of college thing, so I was hoping an advanced degree would give me an edge, but no luck so far. I may go to law school, but that means another three years, and I'm terrified of winding up in a similar situation 3 years from now, finding out that I'm not equipped to be a lawyer either.

The whole thing has me feeling like shit and scared out of my mind that I'll just never be able to work. Has me just about on the verge of a breakdown. Just needed to vent I guess.

Before starting or getting feed up with being a teacher you dreamed about it or was just a out of the moment decision? Because really a major in teaching with minor in English wouldn't have much use out of it. If you may want some tip, you may try some career as instructor, just need to learn the trade or subjects because the teaching methodology you already know. And an Instructor have much shorter contact with people and usually people that really want to learn that, so much "easier" to deal than teaching to young people.

I wouldn't say I dreamed of it, but it was something I thought I would reasonably enjoy, and something that I'd be good at.  Unfortunately I was wrong.  Part of it is me I'm sure. I tend to be really hard on myself when things aren't going well, which is a natural part of teaching.  I'm not always super organized which is important.  Part of it is the system being broken.  Like, when you have a class where some of your brighter students still add on their fingers and you're supposed to be teaching them things like multiplying decimals.



JWeinCom said:
DonFerrari said:

Before starting or getting feed up with being a teacher you dreamed about it or was just a out of the moment decision? Because really a major in teaching with minor in English wouldn't have much use out of it. If you may want some tip, you may try some career as instructor, just need to learn the trade or subjects because the teaching methodology you already know. And an Instructor have much shorter contact with people and usually people that really want to learn that, so much "easier" to deal than teaching to young people.

I wouldn't say I dreamed of it, but it was something I thought I would reasonably enjoy, and something that I'd be good at.  Unfortunately I was wrong.  Part of it is me I'm sure. I tend to be really hard on myself when things aren't going well, which is a natural part of teaching.  I'm not always super organized which is important.  Part of it is the system being broken.  Like, when you have a class where some of your brighter students still add on their fingers and you're supposed to be teaching them things like multiplying decimals.

Understood... teaching is really for a very few people. Usually you'll either find people that are very passionate and want to pass down knowledge or you'll see people that failed at their fields retrieving for teaching position to put food on the table and complain all the time about being ill paid and whatnot.

I hope you can get back on your foot fast.



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DonFerrari said:
JWeinCom said:

I wouldn't say I dreamed of it, but it was something I thought I would reasonably enjoy, and something that I'd be good at.  Unfortunately I was wrong.  Part of it is me I'm sure. I tend to be really hard on myself when things aren't going well, which is a natural part of teaching.  I'm not always super organized which is important.  Part of it is the system being broken.  Like, when you have a class where some of your brighter students still add on their fingers and you're supposed to be teaching them things like multiplying decimals.

Understood... teaching is really for a very few people. Usually you'll either find people that are very passionate and want to pass down knowledge or you'll see people that failed at their fields retrieving for teaching position to put food on the table and complain all the time about being ill paid and whatnot.

I hope you can get back on your foot fast.

Thanks.  I took my LSATS and applied to law school.  So, I have a plan.  I'm just worried I'll wind up in the same position.  It sucks that with these kinds of jobs you have to put so much in before you know if it will work out for you.



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JWeinCom said:
DonFerrari said:

Understood... teaching is really for a very few people. Usually you'll either find people that are very passionate and want to pass down knowledge or you'll see people that failed at their fields retrieving for teaching position to put food on the table and complain all the time about being ill paid and whatnot.

I hope you can get back on your foot fast.

Thanks.  I took my LSATS and applied to law school.  So, I have a plan.  I'm just worried I'll wind up in the same position.  It sucks that with these kinds of jobs you have to put so much in before you know if it will work out for you.

Well life can be harsh and uncertain.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Cobretti2 said:
Ok I just spoke to a friend in Perth at 1:30AM in the morning my time.

He is willing to talk to you (i.e. take time out of his busy schedule), in person (his family runs a security company) and tell you what qualification you need to get to get a security license. Said it is about $800 all up.

Wants to have an informal interview to see what kind of character you are and drive you have before he makes up his mind on whether you should do the course or not and whether he is willing to employ you.

I do not want to work as a security guard. No way am I paying $800 for a security guard course.  I have no motivation to work as a security guard, it is not a job that interests me and is not my dream job. I am a Business School graduate and a Commerce degree was not enough to secure me a job that I wanted to do and interested me.

A security guard position for an intellectually disabled person with limited social skills and can not read body language or facial cues would not be able to cope with the job. My limitations severely restrict what jobs I am capable of doing.

Last edited by Dark_Lord_2008 - on 15 April 2019

Dark_Lord_2008 said:

I will continue my fight for freedom and equality. I will not let anyone like you stand in my way!

That's the spirit.

Dark_Lord_2008 said:

I will only do a job that I want to do not a lousy job that I do not want to do.

Then you will likely continue to remain unemployed.

Dark_Lord_2008 said:

I am going to make more noise and complain about things that are unfair and unjust. I will continue my fight for fairness and equality. 

Complaining incessantly isn't going to magically make a job appear out of thin air. You need to work hard to get somewhere, no such thing as a free ride.

Dark_Lord_2008 said:

I do not want to work as a security guard. No way am I paying $800 for a security guard course.  I have no motivation to work as a security guard, it is not a job that interests me and is not my dream job. I am a Business School graduate and a Commerce degree was not enough to secure me a job that I wanted to do and interested me.

A security guard position for an intellectually disabled person with limited social skills and can not read body language or facial cues would not be able to cope with the job. My limitations severely restrict what jobs I am capable of doing.

You aren't getting it. You have to start from the bottom as you are currently on the bottom.

From there you need to work hard and work your way up to your dream job.

Get some motivation, seek professional help if you must, medication maybe.

As for your disabilities, they are just excuses, I see people with disabilities work all the time, and not just mild disabilities either... Individuals with down syndrome working the parks, building furniture, that sort of thing.
People unable to walk being a receptionist... A disability only prevents you from achieving something if you let it.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Ok I just spoke to a friend in Perth at 1:30AM in the morning my time.

He is willing to talk to you (i.e. take time out of his busy schedule), in person (his family runs a security company) and tell you what qualification you need to get to get a security license. Said it is about $800 all up.

Wants to have an informal interview to see what kind of character you are and drive you have before he makes up his mind on whether you should do the course or not and whether he is willing to employ you.

I do not want to work as a security guard. No way am I paying $800 for a security guard course.  I have no motivation to work as a security guard, it is not a job that interests me and is not my dream job. I am a Business School graduate and a Commerce degree was not enough to secure me a job that I wanted to do and interested me.

A security guard position for an intellectually disabled person with limited social skills and can not read body language or facial cues would not be able to cope with the job. My limitations severely restrict what jobs I am capable of doing.

One of my friends who is an electrical engineer worked as a security guard for 4years.

He went into the graduate program for 3 years as an engineer then moved QLD to be closer to his wife's family as he had a couple kids. In that time he decided to go study his Masters and therefore he worked part time at night as a security guard. Once he got his masters, he then started looking for work. Eventually he landed at Volvo as an electrical engineer.

The point I am making is you have to start somewhere. You say you have no work history and no skills and that you need work reference etc. Without any you will never get your dream dream. Plus think about it security companies work for many organisations, who knows what opportunities they can lead you? Build your networks.

A dream job is just that a bloody dream job. There is no job out there that will ever meet the expectations of a dream.

You could have skipped all this drama when you graduated. But no you chose the easy way out. Oh the top 4 companies won't have me therefore my degree is useless. You said you didn't even bother applying for the graduate positions, so how do you know they wouldn't even accept you lol? Another assumption.

Well it has been 10 years and nothing has changed for you have to start somewhere, anywhere, build some reputation up of being a hard worker.

At the end of the day living in Australia you know you don't have to try. Admit it you love being a dole bludger, as long as you have enough money to live off some sort of life it is easier to blame everyone else. If you were in Eastern Europe you be either dead right now or collecting dog shit off the ground to get enough money just to eat. They don't fuck around with indefinite handouts.



 

 

There were only 100 graduate roles but thousands of graduates competing for the limited positions. Why would I bother when the odds are stacked against me? I bet on short priced favourites in horse races and select favourite in sports bets. I only play when the odds are short and the chances of winning are more likely than losing. Getting employment is like a lottery, low odds of getting any job. Getting rejected from menial jobs was the last straw and put me off looking for work. It was an insult that i could not say no to the cleaning, factory, dishwashing job, retail or fast food job that I would never show up to do.

Some people walk straight into their dream job right after completing university by pure luck. Hard work is not enough to get a job in what you want to do. There are millions of starving people in Africa and Asia that work hard and struggle to survive. Anyone can work hard if they are given the opportunity to work. Being given the opportunity is the only thing that matters. Anyone can work most jobs if given the opportunity to work. Being in the right place at the right time to get the job and knowing the right people to pull the strings.

The recruiter agencies ask so many questions and I refused to provide my details and just walked out and never returned. Why would I give details about all my employment/education history and references? They even asked for bank details just to register with stupid agency and with no job even offered. I refused to provide details and believed it was a scam and I did not sign anything. They have no right to ask so many questions that I do not want to answer that could be sold onto third parties like being robocalled 24/7.