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Probably a meme but Young Thug announced he's running for President with Gunna as his VP.
https://www.thefader.com/2019/07/04/young-thug-donald-trump-july-4 lol



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EricHiggin said:
Machiavellian said:

You cannot put this all on the Police, they are only so many and if the crowds on both sides are big they will not have enough personnel. The thing about these groups is once they go violent, then they place themselves in the position to be shut down, denied rights to public protest or assemble. Now the key is if the other side had the opportunity would they plant people to commit violence in the name of the other side.  Oh the games we can play once regulations starts flying around.

The police have a job to do. They serve and protect. That's their job and people look up to them and rely on them to do their job and do it properly. If they can't handle it, that's their problem, not the people's.

Or maybe people shouldn't be putting everything on the President? Considering they're just one person, who has a job to do for the people, who's supposed to just deal with it, whatever comes their way.

lol, had to find someway to throw Trump into the mix.  At least you are focused.

Who ever said anything about them not being able to handle their job.  I stated they are undermanned.  When you come up with a solution for that problem then we can talk.  This blind believe that the Police can be everywhere at once seems silly.



jason1637 said:
Machiavellian said:

So how do you become better prepared when you do not have the personnel.  Its very easy to make this statement but I do not hear any solutions coming from you.  How do you police an area you do not have enough people to be in all areas at once.

So its the police fault because they do not have enough people is this the only way you see it.  Needless to say, I am guessing you have absolutely no experience in this area.  How many protest have you been a part of in during your time on this earth.  I have been in a few and I can tell you this.  If you believe that there will always be a cop around to support your right to protest while another side is counter to you exercising your right you will always have someone to blame but it will mean nothing if you are getting stomped into the dirt.

They have the personnel to send a sufficient amount of officers to these protest.

If this was the first time something like this has happened I won't be blaming the police. The issue is that this keeps happening and the police are not prepared. I'm not a protest person but I have been to a few. All cops have to do is stop people from getting seriously hurt. Get involved when they see that violence is about to erupt and try to stop it.

How do you know this.  You are making assumptions and you really are not looking at the complexity of the entire event.  How many cops do you need for a protest you do not know the size of the crowd until it gets there.  You have no clue who is coming from out of state and you still need police to do their normal jobs around the city.  Where are you getting your data they have sufficient personnel or is this just a guess.  Also when an incident breaks out in one part of a protest, how many cops will be needed for that.  How many cops are needed for the direct conflicts where both opposing sides are right next to each other.  It seems you have this simplistic view of the situation without really thinking about the complexity especially since it's not a stationary event. With incidents happening throughout the city, you believe that ever inch will have a police there to cover such a large area, that sounds very naive.

Lol, that's all the cops have to do is stop people from getting seriously hurt.  Man you must be very young because your statement is something out of some idealistic view with totally no experience in history.  This is why people find themselves at these protest getting stomped believing as you do.  Oh, well, at the end of the day, I suggest you never find yourself out on the street proclaiming your right to protest hoping their will be enough police in the area to make sure you do not get hurt.



Did anyone watch that retard give 4th of July speech? I missed it.

PM Sent - cycycychris

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sethnintendo said:

Did anyone watch that retard give 4th of July speech? I missed it.

Naw, I was way to busy grilling, eating and drinking to pay any attention to something like that.  Anyway, you can only listen to so many of Trump's speeches before you start to wonder if a few of your brain cells were destroyed in the process.

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sethnintendo said:

Did anyone watch that retard give 4th of July speech? I missed it.

I can't listen to that guy speak.  Listening to his voice is like nails on a chalkboard.



Machiavellian said:
jason1637 said:

They have the personnel to send a sufficient amount of officers to these protest.

If this was the first time something like this has happened I won't be blaming the police. The issue is that this keeps happening and the police are not preawwpared. I'm not a protest person but I have been to a few. All cops have to do is stop people from getting seriously hurt. Get involved when they see that violence is about to erupt and try to stop it.

How do you know this.  You are making assumptions and you really are not looking at the complexity of the entire event.  How many cops do you need for a protest you do not know the size of the crowd until it gets there.  You have no clue who is coming from out of state and you still need police to do their normal jobs around the city.  Where are you getting your data they have sufficient personnel or is this just a guess.  Also when an incident breaks out in one part of a protest, how many cops will be needed for that.  How many cops are needed for the direct conflicts where both opposing sides are right next to each other.  It seems you have this simplistic view of the situation without really thinking about the complexity especially since it's not a stationary event. With incidents happening throughout the city, you believe that ever inch will have a police there to cover such a large area, that sounds very naive.

Lol, that's all the cops have to do is stop people from getting seriously hurt.  Man you must be very young because your statement is something out of some idealistic view with totally no experience in history.  This is why people find themselves at these protest getting stomped believing as you do.  Oh, well, at the end of the day, I suggest you never find yourself out on the street proclaiming your right to protest hoping their will be enough police in the area to make sure you do not get hurt.

Lol i'm having an idealistic view by expecting the police to do their job properly?  Whatever dude you keep defending them. I feel sorry for you that you don't hold cops to a higher degree. 



sethnintendo said:

Did anyone watch that retard give 4th of July speech? I missed it.

I saw the first half but stopped when he was talking about George Washington cause I had a cookout to go to. The speech had some historical inaccuracies but it was alright. 



It's a good thing we took back the airports during the Revolutionary War.  Can you imagine how badly we would have lost if the British maintained control over the airports?  The army manned the air, too, because otherwise, Francis Scott Key never would have been able to write the Star Spangled Banner at Fort McHendry (wonder if that's near Fort McHenry?) with George Washington. And that Cornwallis of Yorktown guy...? Glad he showed up to stop General Cornwallis of London at Yorktown.  Hell of a coincidence of names though.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

Machiavellian said:
EricHiggin said:

The police have a job to do. They serve and protect. That's their job and people look up to them and rely on them to do their job and do it properly. If they can't handle it, that's their problem, not the people's.

Or maybe people shouldn't be putting everything on the President? Considering they're just one person, who has a job to do for the people, who's supposed to just deal with it, whatever comes their way.

lol, had to find someway to throw Trump into the mix.  At least you are focused.

Who ever said anything about them not being able to handle their job.  I stated they are undermanned.  When you come up with a solution for that problem then we can talk.  This blind believe that the Police can be everywhere at once seems silly.

Who said anything about Trump? I thought he was just 1 of 45. You just had to throw Sting into the mix... A little off topic no?

Sounds a lot like the President being hamstrung. If only they had more power to themselves or manpower in general. That wouldn't be a good thing though for many reasons, so they have to deal with what they have at the moment, and if things don't go well, guess who get's blamed, and legitimately so, apparently? If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, or should the kitchen be more comfortable?

It's too bad when the next war starts that directly impacts America, they won't be able to help much. Planning and moving troops or weapons to where they are needed asap would be so useful don't you think? One can only dream of such a world... Now if you'll excuse me, I've got more milk to churn, and you better finish stomping those grapes, before they go sour.



The Canadian National Anthem According To Justin Trudeau

 

Oh planet Earth! The home of native lands, 
True social law, in all of us demand.
With cattle farts, we view sea rise,
Our North sinking slowly.
From far and snide, oh planet Earth, 
Our healthcare is yours free!
Science save our land, harnessing the breeze,
Oh planet Earth, smoke weed and ferment yeast.
Oh planet Earth, ell gee bee queue and tee.