1/2. No they don't. "Fifty percent of Americans who commit suicide do so with a gun. In our hypothetical, we assume that figure is just 9 percent — the average level of those four other Western countries. We then assumed the remaining 41 percent would try to commit suicide by other methods, such as suffocation or poisoning. Because none of these methods is as lethal as a gun, fewer people would succeed at committing suicide than if they used firearms. Of course, in reality, it’s possible some people in this 41 percent would not attempt suicide otherwise; we assume they all do to keep our estimate conservative."
The 9% makes sense since they just averaged other western countries but the 41 percent number is totally random.
As for lethality the report fails to adress the different type of guns used and what area of the body si shot. http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods This is a list of the most lethal methods. Shotgun shot to the head is #1 but shotguns are by far the least common method used to comitt sucide. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1350343/pdf/amjph00246-0074.pdf. The use of Cyanide and a general shot the head would come in second. But getting hit by a train and using explosives come pretty close. The report failed to address these methods too.
3/4. The study that accounts for youth fails to take into account accidents. The generla population study I can't read unless i pay a fee but i'm not gonna do that.
I have looked some up and what i've found is that stricter gun laws reduce suicides by firearms. That's pretty obvious but I have yet to find anything about general suicide rates.
I have provided a rebuttal. If you take away the guns you're just taking away one of the many tools available. The emotions that lead someone to commit sucide is still there. Here is an article that explains why you can't properly relate gun ownership to suide because we we don't know who has guns or not since there's no gun registry or gun purchase documentation.
Ther is also another study that shows that stricter gun laws don't show overall decrease in risk of suicide rates in a population.https://www.nap.edu/read/10881/chapter/9
1) They have their methodology linked within the article which explains in detail what they did with that other 41%. tldr version: They used two calculations. The first was applying suicide attempt percentages to that 41%. The second accounted for seriousness of attempt by applying percentages of only successful suicide attempts. It is not "totally random".
2) Lethality is addressed through the above. They addressed the lethality of the means that people actually use to commit suicide and also included an "Other" section which accounts for the lethality of all niche methods. The reason you don't see a specific category for "Cyanide poisoning" is twofold. One is that this is included in the overall poisoning statistics and two is that it doesn't seem to be very common. The report did not "fail to address" this stuff. It addressed it, but it just wasn't very important.
3) I struggle to understand what point you are trying to make by continually bringing up "accidents". These are different statistics so I'm not sure why you think them "taking it into account" would change anything.
4) Again, you not reading it is not an argument.
5) I largely agree with the points made in in that NAP review. To borrow the summary provided:
Point one and two were largely part of my argument from the beginning. Point three largely addresses the need for additional research on gun control measures which are focused on suicide prevention. As your other source notes, "gun control" could mean a lot of things, so a more specific focus is needed in order to address the question. Again, to take a summary from the NAP review:
|"Suicide prevention has rarely been the basis for public support of the passage of specific gun laws, but effects on suicide rates could be an unintended by-product of such laws, and the effects of different firearms policy interventions on suicide remain poorly understood. Thus, the committee recommends further studies of the link between firearms policy and suicide."|
But that review is almost fifteen years old now and additional research has been done. I already posted several articles discussing this from after this review was completed, but I will post one more:
This article discusses the impact of four different laws (waiting periods, universal background checks, gun locks, and open carrying regulations) on suicide rates and finds that all four laws were associated with a lower overall suicide rate (though the relationship was weaker for waiting periods).
Note: Three additional laws were analyzes under this article with similar conclusions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25880944